10-18-2013, 03:16 PM
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Well in 2008, Mesa Chandler and Gilbert (the entire east valley, yikes haha) were on Forbes list of most boring cities in the United States- Mesa was #1 and all three scored in the top 10!
Mesa, Chandler, Gilbert boring cities? - East Valley Local News - EVTNow
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10-18-2013, 03:26 PM
Location: Metro Phoenix, AZ USA
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Wow. Did you even read the article?
They determined "boring" based on how many times a city was mentioned in the national media. Now, that's meaningful criteria for those who are actually there and know something about those cities.. not.
And, as the article points out, Forbes, and other publications, had ranked those cities high on lists of places to live.
So, thanks for sharing some not very meaningful information in terms of this topic.
10-18-2013, 07:01 PM
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Bottom line, if someone is looking towards museums, amusement parks, bars, and other civic amenities. to keep from being bored, he or she has bigger problems that his or her choice of city of residence. You will probably find a greater sense of personal fulfillment and excitement becoming more involved with your family, starting a family, spending more time with your friends, learning more, and/or doing good for others than you ever will by giving money to the people who own the above establishments.
10-18-2013, 07:22 PM
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Wow. Did you even read the article?
They determined "boring" based on how many times a city was mentioned in the national media. Now, that's meaningful criteria for those who are actually there and know something about those cities.. not.
And, as the article points out, Forbes, and other publications, had ranked those cities high on lists of places to live.
So, thanks for sharing some not very meaningful information in terms of this topic.
Congratulations to those
lucky enough to live there! No need to get passive aggressive
10-18-2013, 08:49 PM
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I'm young(ish), educated, well-traveled and was upwardly mobile in getting to where I am today. I recently moved here and love it. I've met many young, successful people that moved here for the weather, the outdoor activities (with an emphasis on golf), career advancement and so on that are also happy here. Just because you're not happy here doesn't mean everyone that is has simply settled in life. That's a fallacy. I find myself with more to do than time to do it in.
10-18-2013, 11:09 PM
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Jukesgrrl, I know about the Sports teams!! Sporting events are big in Phoenix but so many transplants here equates to many people rooting for the opposing teams!! Ask just about any new arrival who won the 2001 World Series and I bet they couldn't come up with the correct answer without Googling it!! Everyone knows the World-famous Yankees but very few people know the Diamondbacks!! The Cardinals??!! Oh yeah, most people heard of the Saint Louis Cardinals but not the Arizona Cardinals Football team!! Their losing record lately should disqualify them from the NFL!! Phoenix is not sophisticated enough for World-famous Sporting events!! The City hosted a couple of Super Bowls and won a World Series some twelve years ago but it's long forgotten about by now!!
Madhatter, a period is a perfectly acceptable way to terminate your sentences.
10-18-2013, 11:25 PM
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Again, it really depends on the kinds of things you like to do. I like outdoor stuff over crowded nightclubs and amusement parks and such. Over the last couple of months I was able to go camping up on the Mogollon Rim and enjoy the chilly weather and awesome vistas, backpack down into the little-known Agua Fria National Monument and see Hohokam ruins and petroglyphs dotting the canyon walls of the creek (just off the I-17, only about 40 miles north of Phoenix), do some day hikes around South Mountain (the largest city park in America, even larger than Central Park in New York City) and see incredible views of the Valley and the Estrella Mountains, do some wicked rock climbing, and paddle a canoe about 10 miles around Lake Alamo (in the darkest part of the state - it's so far from any city and so dark the stars and meteors just pop out of the night sky, and herds of wild burros whose sires were abandoned by prospectors roam around the shores and bray at you.) All of those experiences cost nothing much more than gas (about $15 to camp at Lake Alamo), and none were more than a couple of hours drive out of Phoenix, most much less. I could find some great outdoor experiences when I lived in L.A., but you could drive 2 hours in L.A., still be stuck in traffic, and still not get out of the city.
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10-18-2013, 11:46 PM
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Well this thread certainly took off...can't say it's boring, that's for sure.
My guest came and left and they loved it.
They didn't do all that much but they had a good time and were able to relax quite a bit (I let them use our house and one of our cars while here, we were away from home the whole time). They basically hung around the house watching movies, went to a few restaurants that I recommended (Cibo, Delux Burger, The Gelato Spot) and also checked out the Greek Festival which they liked. My cousin's boyfriend actually said he loved it...the wide roads, the no traffic...said he wouldn't mind moving here actually. :P
10-18-2013, 11:49 PM
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Bottom line, if someone is looking towards museums, amusement parks, bars, and other civic amenities. to keep from being bored, he or she has bigger problems that his or her choice of city of residence. You will probably find a greater sense of personal fulfillment and excitement becoming more involved with your family, starting a family, spending more time with your friends, learning more, and/or doing good for others than you ever will by giving money to the people who own the above establishments.
We're talking about visiting a city for vacation purposes here though, not where you choose to live...or at least that's why I'm talking about. Phoenix is perfectly fine for a place to live, hence why I'm here and will continue to be for a long time.
10-19-2013, 04:45 PM
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I'm a little late to this party, but I have to say this thread started out taking my breath away. WHAT IS WRONG with some of you people? This is the fifth largest city in the United States! Nothing to do?? I'm astounded. I would recommend meds. But I guess when you're also complaining about other cities ... "most US cities are kinda boring" ... if you think that, what do you say about the countryside? Driven around central Missouri lately? How about the plains of South Dakota? The swamps of Jersey?
Well I'm from central Missouri and yes I have, so I'd say YOU need meds!
I find stuff to do here AND there. Your opinion!
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Again, it really depends on the kinds of things you like to do. I like outdoor stuff over crowded nightclubs and amusement parks and such. Over the last couple of months I was able to go camping up on the Mogollon Rim and enjoy the chilly weather and awesome vistas, backpack down into the little-known Agua Fria National Monument and see Hohokam ruins and petroglyphs dotting the canyon walls of the creek
I'm looking forward to some of these things - hopefully next weekend!
I don't like nightlife, clubs, amusement parks either.
I get a little bored in the summer - I like NHL and outdoor hiking, etc. things we can't do much in the summer in PHX. We don't get a chance to leave town due to my husband's work, so we end up a little stuck indoors. But, we manage.
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People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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I find stuff to do here AND there. Your opinion! 
