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Thanks for at least admitting Bush was an epic fail. The first of the 12 steps is admitting the problem.
All deaths in situations like this are tragic. However, IMHO, using the number of deaths to gage the seriousness of these two situations (Katrina/BP spill) is nowhere near correct. I would actually venture to say that the BP spill will have 10 times the negative effect (although perhaps different effects) that Katrina had.
Whereas Katrina had a relatively local effect, the Gulf spill, due to the nature of the ocean(s) inovlved will spread it's misery far and wide affecting absolutely everything in it's path. It's kind of like if a tornado hit your house, destroying everything you owned, but sparing your life and those of your family (kind of like Katrina for most residents of New Orleans), compared to if you found out your home was built on a toxic waste dump and that due to exposure over the years your whole family is going to die of cancer in short order and your entire home is totally worthless for living in....even though it still stands on the lot.
New Orleans can/could/will be rebuilt....the Gulf (and other affected bodies of water near by) due to the BP spill will never quite be the same for generations or more.
All deaths in situations like this are tragic. However, IMHO, using the number of deaths to gage the seriousness of these two situations (Katrina/BP spill) is nowhere near correct. I would actually venture to say that the BP spill will have 10 times the negative effect (although perhaps different effects) that Katrina had.
Whereas Katrina had a relatively local effect, the Gulf spill, due to the nature of the ocean(s) inovlved will spread it's misery far and wide affecting absolutely everything in it's path. It's kind of like if a tornado hit your house, destroying everything you owned, but sparing your life and those of your family (kind of like Katrina for most residents of New Orleans), compared to if you found out your home was built on a toxic waste dump and that due to exposure over the years your whole family is going to die of cancer in short order and your entire home is totally worthless for living in....even though it still stands on the lot.
New Orleans can/could/will be rebuilt....the Gulf (and other affected bodies of water near by) due to the BP spill will never quite be the same for generations or more.
I was in New Orleans well after Katrina and it's not rebuilt at all.
Really? Ray Nagin never made any plea or request for any aid?
Nagin is not the one able to request federal asistance. The governor does it. Yes, it was done, but it was late.
The truth is that in both scenarios, stuff happened that wasn't foreseen and was beyond the ability to respond to it. In Katrina, they thought they were okay, then the water came and flooded the city; and relief ahmpered further by access. They weren't prepared for that, and though we have had hurricanes, we were not prepared for that at any level of government, which actually began with the evacuation plan that was not followed.
In the oil gush, nobody knows what to do because we've never had anything like this at that depth.
Yet the Obama administration gave this very rig a safety award. They were in office a year and half, why didn't they ram through some regulations?
They were too busy ramming the health bill down our throats. First things first you know. Jobs and safety of our citizens were last on their minds.
I heard the oil spill isn't so much Obama's Katrina, it's his Carter's hostage situation. We are now counting the days until the oil can be cleaned up and the spill is stopped. Like the hostages, we counted the days until they were returned.
Nagin is not the one able to request federal asistance. The governor does it. Yes, it was done, but it was late.
The truth is that in both scenarios, stuff happened that wasn't foreseen and was beyond the ability to respond to it. In Katrina, they thought they were okay, then the water came and flooded the city; and relief ahmpered further by access. They weren't prepared for that, and though we have had hurricanes, we were not prepared for that at any level of government, which actually began with the evacuation plan that was not followed.
In the oil gush, nobody knows what to do because we've never had anything like this at that depth.
And people still criticize every little thing Obama does regarding it. Hurrican relief is 101 material for disaster relief whereas and oil rig explosion and leak is uncharted territory. Yet these people use every ounce of energy and forfeit all prior knowledge to their previous administration just to criticize Obama regarding this. It truly is unhealthy behavior.
They were too busy ramming the health bill down our throats. First things first you know. Jobs and safety of our citizens were last on their minds.
I heard the oil spill isn't so much Obama's Katrina, it's his Carter's hostage situation. We are now counting the days until the oil can be cleaned up and the spill is stopped. Like the hostages, we counted the days until they were returned.
Didn't realize getting oil to stop leaking was a matter of being a diplomatic negotiator
Didn't realize getting oil to stop leaking was a matter of being a diplomatic negotiator
Just as big a mess though for Obama. Sorry, he is the president and all presidents before him have taken the blame for what happened when they were in office. Why does he get a pass?
Bush had warnings about Katrina. He even flew over the damage (correct me if I am wrong) and just looked at it. When we KNEW this was happening, why did it take so freakin long for supplies and help to get to New Orleans?
We had NO WARNING WHATSOEVER about this oil spill. It was very sudden and it was BP's fault. What does Obama have to do with what happened initially? Bush had warnings and it took FOREVER for help to get down there. Obama didn't have any warnings. Why are the conservatives so into government doing something now? I thought they wanted us to take responsibility for our actions? So then why bring Obama into cleaning up the oil spill by BP?
To try to take this and twist it into making it Obamas Katrina is just absurd. No offense, Aero.
Just as big a mess though for Obama. Sorry, he is the president and all presidents before him have taken the blame for what happened when they were in office. Why does he get a pass?
So it was Obama who passed all the deregulation laws that Bush did that may very well have prevented this? It was Obama who was responsible for the economic collapse and 2 wars that likely are why the lack of safety in the oil industry has been a subject of neglect?
And we can all agree this was pretty much a result of lack of safety regulation and inspection. Well, it's that sort of regulation you right wingers oppose. Regardless of who's in office, if things like this truly anger you (and I have a feeling some of you wouldn't care if someone else was in office) you need to take a look in the mirror.
Bush caused 4,081 to die? Proof please that the blood is on his hands for every one of these deaths.
Is one death not too many? Basically you're saying that 11 deaths are inconsequential. I bet the families appreciate that.
our govt thinks that way, in essence its okay to kill 1000 and save one 10000
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