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Old 09-02-2010, 01:48 PM
 
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This just in:
oof. the "school records" part of this myth is, unfortunetely, one that LTC lakin could have looked into over the weekend before he gambled his career on an internet rumor. the "fullbright scholarship" myth is based on an april fool's day joke that a few birther websites ran with as fact. as i said, i weekend's worth of half-assed research would have pulled up these things:

A): the basic snopes.com rundown.

B): the fullbright scholarship nearly always goes to graduate students, not undergrads.

C): under US and indonesian law it would have been impossible for obama to have recieved indonesian citizenship before attending college .
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Old 09-02-2010, 02:18 PM
 
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But he sure has no problem spending all of his time with a giant "L" plastered on his forehead though.
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Old 09-02-2010, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Yoo-hooooo! InformedConsent? Where did you go?

Do you believe that a person born in Los Angeles, California to two U.S. citizen parents who were both born in Erie, Pennsylvania is a natural born citizen?
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Old 09-02-2010, 04:21 PM
 
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Yoo-hooooo! InformedConsent? Where did you go?
The person in your hypothetical question isn't Obama (you know, the subject of the thread topic), is it?

The question doesn't change the fact that Obama is not a natural born citizen, as required by the U.S. Constitution.
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Old 09-02-2010, 04:22 PM
 
Location: California
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The person in your hypothetical question isn't Obama (you know, the subject of the thread topic), is it?

The question doesn't change the fact that Obama is not a natural born citizen, as required by the U.S. Constitution.
Everyone who matters seems to differ.
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Old 09-02-2010, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The person in your hypothetical question isn't Obama (you know, the subject of the thread topic), is it?
My god... are you actually still afraid to answer the question? I swear... this is getting to be a grand comedy.

I will now, for at least the third time, show you exactly how easy it is to answer a direct question.

Q: The person in your hypothetical question isn't Obama (you know, the subject of the thread topic), is it?

A: No. It's not Obama.

So... for what? The fourth time? The fifth time?

Do you believe that a person born in Los Angeles, California to two U.S. citizen parents who were both born in Erie, Pennsylvania is a natural born citizen?
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Old 09-02-2010, 04:28 PM
 
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My god... are you actually still afraid to answer the question?
I'm staying on topic, and you aren't.

Obama did not have citizen parents. He self-admittedly owed allegiance to another country at birth. He's not a natural born citizen.
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Old 09-02-2010, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I'm staying on topic, and you aren't.
Lol... Oh, I am completely on topic. And you know I'm on topic which is why you are so terrified about answering the question. Because if you did not feel a sense of impending doom hangin over your arguments, you would show some spine and just answer the question.

Come on, IC. Give it a shot. Be brave for once.

Do you believe that a person born in Los Angeles, California to two U.S. citizen parents who were both born in Erie, Pennsylvania is a natural born citizen?

ETA: That's the seventh time I've asked. How high can we go?
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Old 09-02-2010, 04:56 PM
 
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Lol... Oh, I am completely on topic.
No you're not. You're discussing a hypothetical unnamed person that has completely different birth circumstances than Obama.

The fact is, the DNC and Obama's Organizing for America have admitted that Obama owed allegiance to a foreign sovereign at birth.
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When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Fight the Smears: The Truth About Barack (http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate - broken link)

Obama is not a natural born citizen.
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Old 09-02-2010, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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No you're not. You're discussing a hypothetical unnamed person that has completely different birth circumstances than Obama.
LOL.... I gotta say, even you have to be embarrassed at this point. Because you already know I'm going to ask yet an eighth time before this post is over, and you are still running away in sheer terror of a simple question.

The question is absolutely on topic. If it wasn't you'd have answered it long ago and been done with it.

So come on. Give it a shot. After all, you have positioned yourself as this all knowing, perspicacious and wise arbiter of the standards for natural born citizenship. You've looked at all the angles. You've parsed the Congressional record and read the minds of dead people. You've claimed to know more than the United States Supreme Court or the US State Department on this very issue.

Show us your stuff.

Answer the question.

Do you believe that a person born in Los Angeles, California to two U.S. citizen parents who were both born in Erie, Pennsylvania is a natural born citizen?

ETA: The person is not actually hypothetical. I can even show you his birth certificate. Long form.
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