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You should not speak on what is intelligent and what is not if you are going to post articles like this. If you want to link to something credible, I will read it. Hubpages is just a compilation of original writing by freelancers like myself. At least I have to use citations, this article has none, which means it's all just unverifiable opinion.
It does not have an effect on America today if you don't want it to. I don't carry on what my white ancestors did, nor do I harbor their resentments toward the black race. Likewise, you as a black man (I assume) should not carry on the hostility of your ancestors toward whites. It's your choice, as it is my choice.
Why can't black people honestly own up to mistakes they make and acknowledge their own downfalls instead of just throwing out the race card? THAT is the question.
Like I said you can accept it or NOT, but it happens deal with it.
Actually, many of us do. Bill Cosby speaks on it; Roland S Martin speaks on it; Dr. Michael Eric Dyson speaks on it; Shelby Steele speaks on it. Black people I know and associate with speak on it;. We readily acknowledge the problems in the Black Community and acknowledge those behaviors that contribute to the problem.
My question to you is, why is it that you go into attack mode any time a black person points up a discriminatory act perpetrated by a white individual or organization. Instead of examining the situation, your immediately yell "Race Card", as though the situation was not a bona fide race-based offense. A lot of bad that is done to black people is not necessarily racially motivated. A lot of it is. You seem to have a problem accepting that there actually are racially motivated acts of wrong doing perpetrated by whites. Yes, I know that black people are also guilty of perpetrating racially based wrongs against whites, but that's not the issue here. And please don't try to dodge the question placed at your feet by trying to hide behind the wrondoings that black people do. I already know about that and that's not what I'm asking you about.
Further, I invite you to go back to Post #155 in this thread, examine the posted links, and then come back and explain why it is that you maintain that the legacy of slavery in these United States has no impact on society today. You seem to have not been able to respond to that post, but I noticed that you did attempt to discredit a link on the same subject posted subsequent to my post. Let's not cherry pick.
Because race does not even play a factor, and it's tiring to have to discuss it all the time when it's a moot point to begin with. I'm aware racism exists but it's not on the scale you would believe it to be. Seriously. It's so annoying to have to deal with people who just want to play the blame game when it comes to race, when it really 99% of the time has nothing to do with anything.
I haven't dodged any question you have put forth.
I discredited the other poster b/c his link was to something that is not credible. I did not really read your links b/c there are too many and I have ADHD and I find it hard to concentrate, to be totally honest with you. If you pick the one that best describes your point, I will read through it. No videos, please, as it's not possible to skim through and find the real points in it.
Actually, many of us do. Bill Cosby speaks on it; Roland S Martin speaks on it; Dr. Michael Eric Dyson speaks on it; Shelby Steele speaks on it. Black people I know and associate with speak on it;. We readily acknowledge the problems in the Black Community and acknowledge those behaviors that contribute to the problem.
My question to you is, why is it that you go into attack mode any time a black person points up a discriminatory act perpetrated by a white individual or organization. Instead of examining the situation, your immediately yell "Race Card", as though the situation was not a bona fide race-based offense. A lot of bad that is done to black people is not necessarily racially motivated. A lot of it is. You seem to have a problem accepting that there actually are racially motivated acts of wrong doing perpetrated by whites. Yes, I know that black people are also guilty of perpetrating racially based wrongs against whites, but that's not the issue here. And please don't try to dodge the question placed at your feet by trying to hide behind the wrondoings that black people do. I already know about that and that's not what I'm asking you about.
Further, I invite you to go back to Post #155 in this thread, examine the posted links, and then come back and explain why it is that you maintain that the legacy of slavery in these United States has no impact on society today. You seem to have not been able to respond to that post, but I noticed that you did attempt to discredit a link on the same subject posted subsequent to my post. Let's not cherry pick.
I didn't say you should. I just said many white people do. They obviously don't feel guilty for having enslaved black people themselves, but they feel guilty for benefiting from white privilege, which stems from slavery times.
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I don't know. Maybe she looks sneaky, or maybe she just looks like she takes care of you in some way (you're deaf and blind, correct? That might have something to do with it)? I couldn't tell you b/c I'm not there. People who assume things are idiots, pay them no mind, don't get your knickers in a twist just b/c someone thinks something false about you and your wife's relationship.
Honestly, maybe the whole point here is that we should stop caring what others think of us. It's natural but there needs to be a line drawn.
I don't think it's right that blacks had to sit in the back, but it happened. Why do we still need to bring it up today, like it has any relation to how you or I function in everyday life?
People accuse my wife of stealing today. People assume she's my caretaker or working for me instead of my friend or my wife or my cousin today. Two guys almost got arrested for sexual harassment for having a conversation with me in 2009. Racism still happens today. It's relevant because even though we have been progressing, it still happens from both sides.
You know how I know it's at least partially racial in nature? They do it with my black grandma too. They never do it with my white roommate. People assume he's my boyfriend. And in terms of looking strange or helping me, my roommate helps me a lot more in public. He's much quicker to guide me or help me to a seat whereas my wife will just let me find it on my own. Both my wife and roommate tend to wear old worn out clothing.
People constantly assume my black family and friends are working for me. In fact, once I was with two friends of mine. One is deaf-blind and white like me, aged 68. The other is black, hearing-sighted and aged 65. Someone assumed my 68-year-old deaf-blind male friend and I were married, and didn't even consider the idea that he might be married to the 65-year-old woman standing right next to him. Why, because we're both white and deaf-blind? He and I are 48 years apart. She and him are 3 years apart. Honestly, who do you think is more likely to be married? He's old enough to be my grandfather. And yet they assumed that he and I were married and thought she was just our social worker.
I'm not saying it's the end of the world or that I even care what people think. I'm just pointing out those instances to show that even in 2011, people are racist. It's more subtle than it used to be but it's still there. Why do we we have to talk about the past? Because the past informs the present, and the past explains a lot of the racism that still happens today. People wonder why assumptions like the ones I mentioned are made and the answer is in our history. In order to not repeat the past, we have to learn from it.
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You should not speak on what is intelligent and what is not if you are going to post articles like this. If you want to link to something credible, I will read it. Hubpages is just a compilation of original writing by freelancers like myself. At least I have to use citations, this article has none, which means it's all just unverifiable opinion.
It does not have an effect on America today if you don't want it to. I don't carry on what my white ancestors did, nor do I harbor their resentments toward the black race. Likewise, you as a black man (I assume) should not carry on the hostility of your ancestors toward whites. It's your choice, as it is my choice.
Why can't black people honestly own up to mistakes they make and acknowledge their own downfalls instead of just throwing out the race card? THAT is the question.
Also, I don't know if you know, notice or even care but another effect is the dark skinned light skinned issue in the black community which is a big problem. It is mentioned in the article I gave like I said it may not be a credible source to you but it is happening and it's an ongoing situation in the African-American community
I never did that. Why should I feel guilty?
We need to move faster. You personally probably have no wounds (or rather, your wife), and today's youth definitely have no wounds leftover from things that happened in the 60's. People need not be angry about something that 1) never happened to them and/or 2) happened to ancestors decades ago.
I can agree with this, except where you say "often." I think it's probably sometimes to rarely. People just misconstrue it.
I don't know. Maybe she looks sneaky, or maybe she just looks like she takes care of you in some way (you're deaf and blind, correct? That might have something to do with it)? I couldn't tell you b/c I'm not there. People who assume things are idiots, pay them no mind, don't get your knickers in a twist just b/c someone thinks something false about you and your wife's relationship.
Honestly, maybe the whole point here is that we should stop caring what others think of us. It's natural but there needs to be a line drawn.
I don't think it's right that blacks had to sit in the back, but it happened. Why do we still need to bring it up today, like it has any relation to how you or I function in everyday life?
Some blacks do take responsibility, but I have yet to meet one on CD that does not throw the race card when it's convenient. I have met many fewer blacks in real life who do this. Maybe it's just something that happens on online forums. Or maybe I just choose to surround myself by people who don't have a chip on their shoulder.
Good afternoon,
Yes you do, you just don't know this unless the poster announces their race in their postings. Black posters who throw out the race card by default will announce their race.
Like I said you can accept it or NOT, but it happens deal with it.
And what's with all the generalizing?
YOU need to deal with the fact that not everybody is a racist. Stop accusing and give people the benefit of the doubt. Like I said before, if you look for something hard enough, you will find it. How about you stop looking?
The generalizing is b/c people who play the race card are doing so because they cannot admit to their own problems. Why would one do that if they could not just say to themselves "Yeah, they're right, maybe I didn't get that job b/c someone else was more qualified, it probably has nothing to do with my race"?
Exactly, doesn't make any sense just like you're accusing me of vilifying your race.
*sigh* Okay now I'm really confused. You definitely were vilifying whites, as is anyone who plays the race card or defends its use. How would I vilify whites when I take the opposite stance? You're not making any sense.
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