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Old 01-24-2011, 01:32 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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I don't want to know what the French think is a valid reason to abort for medical reasons. I want to know what YOU think is valid. Give us some examples like do you think it's okay to abort if the women is in a coma and it will save her life? It is okay to abort if the pregnancy is ectopic or molar or the fetus inside her doesn't have a brain or beating heart or is a conjoined twin or doesn't have bones in its legs? Give us some concrete examples of how you would rule if you was one of those two French doctors having to make a decision.

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Old 01-24-2011, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I support abortion on demand (government paid, as well as the rest of healthcare), up to the point where a child can survive on its own with no artificial means. (breathing tubes, etc.)

This would be ideal.
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Old 01-24-2011, 01:35 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I don't want to know what the French think is a valid reason to abort for medical reasons. I want to know what YOU think is valid. Give us some examples like do you think it's okay to abort if the women is in a coma and it will save her life? It is okay to abort if the pregnancy is ectopic or molar or the child inside her doesn't have a brain or beating heart or is a conjoined twin or doesn't have bones in its legs? Give us some concrete examples of how you would rule if you was one of those two French doctors having to make a decision.
I am sorry you cannot read or comprehend very well....it seems quite simple to grasp what was written.
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Old 01-24-2011, 01:38 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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This would be ideal.
I thought you were happy with the current situation....

LOL...make up your mind.
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Old 01-24-2011, 01:38 PM
 
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So if money is tight,kill the baby...

Interesting.

not killing babies...it is a fetus...invent a womb
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Old 01-24-2011, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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So if money is tight,kill the baby...

Interesting.
If, for any reason, a mother can not, will not, or does not want to raise a child, she should be able to get the child removed from her body before the point where the child could physically live outside of her body. It just so happens, that at said point, if the child is removed - he or she will die.

Women are told that once they reach a certain point in the pregnancy, that "abortion on demand" will no longer be an option.

And to tie into the actual topic of this thread. The women who saw this doctor were past the point of "abortion on demand" - yet he still did the procedure. That doesn't say anything about abortions in general, just that this doctor is a monster who murdered perfectly viable children.
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Old 01-24-2011, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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So you were lying when you wrote this:


Or..simply confused?

Because you cannot believe your right to give birth or not trumps all AND also be happy with the guidelines currently in place....
Why not? I think the cut off dates in place now are reasonable. Plenty of time to decide whether to abort or not.
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Old 01-24-2011, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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You DO know that this place was inspected BY the National Abortion Federation right????
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Gosnell applied for NAF membership in late 2009, but his application was rejected because his facility did not meet NAF’s standards for quality care.
Open Letter From NAF President

And your point?
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Old 01-24-2011, 01:46 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Originally Posted by Wayland Woman
I don't want to know what the French think is a valid reason to abort for medical reasons. I want to know what YOU think is valid. Give us some examples like do you think it's okay to abort if the women is in a coma and it will save her life? It is okay to abort if the pregnancy is ectopic or molar or the child inside her doesn't have a brain or beating heart or is a conjoined twin or doesn't have bones in its legs? Give us some concrete examples of how you would rule if you was one of those two French doctors having to make a decision.
I am sorry you cannot read or comprehend very well....it seems quite simple to grasp what was written.
In other words, you're not willing to give a concrete example of what YOU personally think is a morally acceptable abortion---just a vague "whatever two doctors decide is medically necessary."
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Old 01-24-2011, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I thought you were happy with the current situation....

LOL...make up your mind.
{{{FAIL}}}

If we were discussing nationalized health care, I would have mentioned I am for it. We were discussing abortion guidelines......which I am happy with. Two seperate topics.
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