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Murdering Jews, Gypsies and Communists in Nazi Germany was legal.
Stoning unfaithful wives and hanging homosexuals is legal in Iran.
Wouldn't the first choice of a healthy developing fetus be to not be killed as a matter of convenience?
Again, a fetus that doesn't even have a fully functional brain is not the same as a living, breathing, thinking person. Apples and oranges = FAIL.
How could anyone imagine what the choice of a fetus would be.....a fetus is not capable of thinking or choosing anything. How can YOU presume to know what a fetus is "thinking"?
I can think and I know how I would choose. I would not have wanted anyone to force my mother to carry me against her will. I would not want to be born of a mother who didn't even want me. And I also know if I was aborted, I wouldn't be boo-hooing about it......because at that point in time I didn't even have a brain capable of thought.
The pro-life position is that instead of being aborted, these children would be adopted into loving homes. If we were to have 1.2 million unplanned children born each year, and we can't take care of the 100, 000 children already in the foster care system awaiting adoption, then what do you suppose will happen to them?
Your claim that 1.2 million otherwise aborted children would be born is unrealistic since men, knowing they will absolutely, positively face child support payments for the next 18 years will wear that condom. Women, knowing they will absolutely, positively carry that unplanned child to term will take their BC pills, use a sponge, a patch, a foam and anything else they can find to keep from getting knocked up to include actually saying "no". The convenience of abortion on demand and for any reason green-lights irresponsible behavior by irresponsible people.
As for the kids in foster care, new born babies generally get adopted pretty quickly and nice families go on waiting lists for them. It's the older kids who end up in foster care because their parents abandon them, become addicted to drugs, go to prison, etc. No one wants these kids because they're seen as damaged goods.
Again, a fetus that doesn't even have a fully functional brain is not the same as a living, breathing, thinking person. Apples and oranges = FAIL.
How could anyone imagine what the choice of a fetus would be.....a fetus is not capable of thinking or choosing anything. How can YOU presume to know what a fetus is "thinking"?
I can think and I know how I would choose. I would not have wanted anyone to force my mother to carry me against her will. I would not want to be born of a mother who didn't even want me. And I also know if I was aborted, I wouldn't be boo-hooing about it......because at that point in time I didn't even have a brain capable of thought.
Is a new-born baby capable of making such choices?
If the standard for personhood is presence of rational thought, some of us could be aborted well into our teen years.
[quote=momonkey;18283449]Your claim that 1.2 million otherwise aborted children would be born is unrealistic since men, knowing they will absolutely, positively face child support payments for the next 18 years will wear that condom. Women, knowing they will absolutely, positively carry that unplanned child to term will take their BC pills, use a sponge, a patch, a foam and anything else they can find to keep from getting knocked up to include actually saying "no". The convenience of abortion on demand and for any reason green-lights irresponsible behavior by irresponsible people.
As for the kids in foster care, new born babies generally get adopted pretty quickly and nice families go on waiting lists for them. It's the older kids who end up in foster care because their parents abandon them, become addicted to drugs, go to prison, etc. No one wants these kids because they're seen as damaged goods.[/quote]
That would include pro-lifers I presume. Nice.....the pro-lifers only want to adopt the perfect little infants.....how telling. Very hypocritcal too, since they want to force women to give birth to "damaged" infants instead of aborting them.
Your claim that 1.2 million otherwise aborted children would be born is unrealistic since men, knowing they will absolutely, positively face child support payments for the next 18 years will wear that condom. Women, knowing they will absolutely, positively carry that unplanned child to term will take their BC pills, use a sponge, a patch, a foam and anything else they can find to keep from getting knocked up to include actually saying "no". The convenience of abortion on demand and for any reason green-lights irresponsible behavior by irresponsible people.
As for the kids in foster care, new born babies generally get adopted pretty quickly and nice families go on waiting lists for them. It's the older kids who end up in foster care because their parents abandon them, become addicted to drugs, go to prison, etc. No one wants these kids because they're seen as damaged goods.[/quote]
That would include pro-lifers I presume. Nice.....the pro-lifers only want to adopt the perfect little infants.....how telling. Very hypocritcal too, since they want to force women to give birth to "damaged" infants instead of aborting them.
Notice how he excuses MEN from just saying "no" ??
He also lives in a dreamland of wishing for a perfect Utopia...human nature (which humans didn't create) will never change and saying it "should" is idiocy.
Not necessarily, if they had moral failings in other areas. Being pro-abortion (pro-murder) is an inherently immoral position. Just like if someone was pro-genocide but otherwise a "good person" -- is that person moral?
The bolded is why so many of these arguments don't get resolved. The opposition (pro-life) refuses to understand those of us on 'the other side' are not "pro-abortion" but pro choice. We simply want women to have the choice whether to continue a pregnancy or not.
That is where I see the OP (and the thread title) as poorly worded as well. I don't 'support abortion'. I support a woman's right to choose abortion if she thinks it's best for her. But I would attempt to argue any friend or family member out of it, if given that chance.
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