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Old 03-19-2011, 05:41 PM
 
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I'd love to agree with you about libertarianism if only they didn't make habits of insisting everything 'takes care of itself'. Nothing takes care of itself. That's the point of duty/ stewardship so lacking in governance today. Privatization of government function is a negation of stewardship I adamantly oppose.



Dems don't want that but so long as legalized theft & tax loopholes exist for corporatocracy, they're powerless to deliver accountability through writ. Transnational corps are beyond their jurisdiction and porous borders of globalization are an assault upon our national system/ economy. America is a sitting duck for financial warfare and terrorists wearing the cloak of immunity under the guise of corporations are destroying America from within.

Yeah I do agree with you about libertarians insisting that as well. Especially economically libertarians think everyone should run according to what the consumer wants and demands. What a crock! Look at how irresponsible and stupid the average "consumer" is. Most of the time they don't know what's good for them.
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Old 03-19-2011, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Maine
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We need less corporatism and a government that supports small and medium sized businesses...
i.e. corporations

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A government that supports entrepeneurship...
i.e. corporations

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Republicans support rich corporate interests...
Sounds like you do too . . . genius.
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Old 03-19-2011, 05:44 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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If you took half of the wealth of every billionaire on the planet you would have 2 trillion dollars.

You could then redistibute all that and give everyone about $300. That'll help.

I haven't even figured in the administrative costs of obtaining the money at gun point and then handing it out. Just off the top of my head I would say your "plan" would put around $100 in everyone's pocket. Of course they need to pay tax on that money. It is income. Everyone gets $70. Thanks Mr. Helper.

Assuming no administrative costs, you could take every dime from every billionaire on the planet and it would mean everyone gets about $600. LOLs.

Proving once again income redistribution does nothing.
republican rightwingest protecting the rich propaganda
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Old 03-19-2011, 05:45 PM
 
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The republicans by a long shot.

Getting people to be self sufficient by working and earning your keep is not only rewarding to them personally but also in many other ways.

We simply have to stop those who are not willing to work or earn their own keep and get people to be more self sufficient.

In the long run everyone does better, we get more taxes paid into the system to help with our infrastructure and schools etc.

Rewarding people for doing nothing by feeding, housing and giving them free medical care only keeps them held down and depressed. Which I believe is the liberal way of doing things, keeping one weak, down and out gives the libs control over the people.
Oh please you are spouting off so much bull**** I need to put my waders on it's getting deep. How brainwashed you are to make it sound like Republicans care about hard working tax paying Americans. The only thing Republicans care about is their corporate elite puppeteers and the revolving door that is political conservatism nowadays. The fking republicans are just as corrupt as the democrats. Oh look we get to choose between the George Bushes and Warren Buffets of the world or we have the Barack Obamas and the George Soros of the world.. They are all vile pukes that need to be removed from office. Warren Buffet's wealth along with George Soros should be confiscated under tyranny and the hijacking of democracy. These two are disgusting. Buffet has lived on government and WallStreet insiders his entire adult life.

The revolving door that is American politics has to stop. Obama is going to name Google's Eric Schmidt commerce secretary!!! WTF? Another corporate lackey.
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Old 03-19-2011, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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1) Democrats
2) Republicans
3) Independent
4) Libertarians
5) Socialists
6) Tea Party
7) Pick Another

Who better represents the Middle Class in this country?

Why?
4/6, followed by 2.

The others fall far, far behind. The middle class is best served by any party whose primary goal is to cut unnecessary spending that we can't afford as well as taxes on people and their employers. Party #2 has been getting better at it, while #1 has failed miserably.
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Old 03-19-2011, 05:48 PM
 
Location: somewhere
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Right now IMO noone supports the middle class, they might like to say they do but when it comes right down to it they really don't.
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Old 03-19-2011, 05:50 PM
 
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The very question itself seems to pit one class against the other and not what is fair to all. Typical class warfare if they favor one above any other;IMO.
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Old 03-19-2011, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Maine
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There's nothing wrong with abusing the upper classes. I'm not talking people that make $250K a year being upper class.
To a family making $25,000 a year, $250,000 is wealthy.

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As far as I'm concerned no human being on the face of the earth deserves, has worked for or earned the right to have that much money or that much wealth.
A family making $25,000 a year might feel the same about someone making $250,000 a year.

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The global planet needs some serious redistribution of wealth. Take - at gunpoint if necessary - half of all their wealth!
Congratulations, you have convinced them. Don't look now, but I think there's someone knocking at your door.
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Old 03-19-2011, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Texas
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1) Democrats
2) Republicans
3) Independent
4) Libertarians
5) Socialists
6) Tea Party
7) Pick Another

Who better represents the Middle Class in this country?

Why?

The Middle Class

why? Because it is not ANY political party's job.. The middle class is to be responsible for itself.. This is why we have the gigantic mess we are in-- it's the "Take care of me.. - entitlement Take care of everyone else -sacrifice yourself to others" mentality

IT'S TOTAL BULLS**t
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Old 03-19-2011, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Maine
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$1 million dollars is nothing.
To a family making $25,000 a year, $1 million is unimaginable.

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Just because Bill Gates invented a computer operating system and his helped along by US taxpayers and government in creating the biggest monopoly the corporate world has ever seen does not give him the right to a billion dollars worth of wealth and money when it's ALL the workers and ALL the consumers buying his product who've made him filthy rich.
Bill Gates invented it, revolutionized the world, created about 135,000 good paying jobs, made thousands of people rich, but he shouldn't profit from it?

You must really miss the USSR
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