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Old 04-23-2011, 01:49 PM
 
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Everything he signed, including Executive Orders would be null & void.
Unless the constitution is amended in time to include non-native Americans, he still lived in this country.

And considering that Obama's only true job is reading teleprompters I think things will run smoothly as usual, with him there or not.
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Old 04-23-2011, 02:06 PM
 
Location: TX
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Nothing at all. His mother was a US citizen for at least 5 years. That makes him a naturalized citizen.
The whole birther thing based on his BC is moot.
Naturalized citizens are not eligible to be president. Only natural born citizens.

Even beyond these terms it's still complicated though:

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§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;
(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person (A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and

(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...1----000-.html
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Old 04-23-2011, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Everything he signed, including Executive Orders would be null & void.

I would think that the Speaker of the House would take over at least temporarily.
I agree with Biden being no longer eligible being chosen by one that proved not to be if that was the case.


Any Military Orders that he gave could turn into quite a quandary.

ObamaCare would be at least fully suspended as there was no duly authorized signature to it.

For the first time in our History there might be a special election if the Speaker did not serve the remainder of the term.

He would try not to bow after dropping the soap.
Please provide a link to a primary source (not WND, the Blaze, or even Huffpo or the like).
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Old 04-23-2011, 02:15 PM
 
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Obviously the VP would be in line to be made president.
And that's what would happen. A sworn-in President has the office until removed by impeachment. Then the succession kicks in, and Biden takes over.

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But! Since he ran WITH Obama, if Obama's qualifications were not met, wouldn't that nullify the VP's position too?
No. Why would it? Biden didn't do anything wrong.

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I mean, if they found out that Obama wasn't a legal citizen the day before election day, the VP would have been out too!
But - still going with the hypothetical - they didn't find anything out. Both were sworn in. Biden's perfectly qualified to be VP.

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If Obama's campaign was a sham, then that would include the VP's election campaign too, wouldn't it?
Unless you could prove at impeachment proceedings that Biden was an accomplice, there's no way to undo the election.

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What I'm really curious about though is the actions that Obama took in office. Wouldn't they be called into question? What would happen to the healthcare bill?
Would remain in force - it would take new legislation to change.
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Old 04-23-2011, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Come ON people! Please stop trying to turn this into a birther debate.
By questioning where he was born, YOU have turned it into a birther debate.
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Old 04-23-2011, 02:16 PM
 
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Everything he signed, including Executive Orders would be null & void.
Do you have a legal citation for that?
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Old 04-23-2011, 02:18 PM
 
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You can't be serious, some guy off of the street can't sign a Bill into Law and that's about what it would amount to.
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Old 04-23-2011, 02:20 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure that the rule for U.S. presidency is; unless you were born on a military base in another country you are not eligible to be president.

John McCain was born in Panama but the canal zone is recognized as an area where (at the time) was American territory.
That isn't the case - US bases on foreign soil are not US territory. McCain is a natural born citizen through his parents (jus sanguinis).
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Old 04-23-2011, 02:23 PM
 
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You can't be serious, some guy off of the street can't sign a Bill into Law and that's about what it would amount to.
We're not talking about a "guy off the street", we're talking about somebody who's been sworn in as the US President. Going with the hypothetical, he did so fraudulently - but continuity in legislation is kinda important.
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Old 04-23-2011, 02:24 PM
 
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Just for fun. Let's discuss what would happen if Obama's BC was proven to be false. That he was proven to have been born in Kenya?

Please BTW, let's keep this on topic. This isn't about whether or not he really was born in Hawaii. Keep that controversy out of this topic please.

Let's just keep this a "what if" about him actually being born in Kenya. What would happen?

Impeachment obviously. But what then?
Barry would go directly to PRISON for fraud and theft of govt property.
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