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Actually I fell off a deck and broke both wrists.. Whats that have to do with the topic?
And? Thats why she has insurance..
Whats your point other than to in 1 sentence say that they cant turn patients away, while in the next, you list hospitals that can?
I have no need to continue to list other hospitals that are allowed to turn patients away.. I said that some are allowed, YOU listed some hospitals that are allowed. YOU made my argument for me..
FAIL.. I said that not all hospitals are required to treat patients, and then you go on and list hospitals that are not required to treat all patients.. What the hells your point other than to now back out of your claim that i was wrong while you listed examples of me being correct? See I can do slappy face as well, that isnt helping you.
And yet you sit there trying to tell me that hospitals are required to see patients, whil listing hospitals that arent.. You are getting very confusing...
ooh please stop moaning and groaning to me about how you are fed up with your job.. I cant help you with personal issues, nor do I care...
Your certainly continues to mean nothing to me.. Why are you sharing your opinion while trying to pass it off as facts?
And one paragraph after you go on and tell me that you know about the law, you then again introduce evidence that you dont.. EMTALA is a mandate on the hospitals, and only if they are PAID by the federal government. The fact that the hospital is paid by the government does NOT make it a right.. Under that argument, an individual could rape you and then leave you $10 for services rendered, and you couldnt call it rape.. Sorry, that isnt going to fly..
Your opinion on someones credibility means nothing to me as well.. NONE..
Sorry, I have better things to do then to contact people for you and make your argument, especially considering its wrong, like above.. EMTALA does not mandate healthcare a RIGHT, even if you pretend it does.. it mandates that a hospital provide a service IF the hospital follows standards to be paid.. By definition rights can not be revoked.. EMTALA can be, and here we have you asking for it.. By your own admission its not a right now, but you will continue to proclaim you didnt say what you did.
ROTFLMAO!
My, oh my. Such anger. I must have struck a nerve.
I never stated there is a "right" to healthcare. I brought up EMTALA because it has created an ipso facto "right to healthcare" as evidenced by case law.
I don't recall Christ billing those whom he treated, nor exhorting his followers to show disdain for the poor and needy...quite the opposite, in fact. Of course, there's that little matter of the Hippocratic Oath. By all means, read both versions.
If you are the only doctor on a deserted island and choose not to provide your services unless you are given something in return (extra food, etc) I guarantee you quite a few of the other 99 people on said island are going to kill you, roast you over an open pit and eat you.
Do not assume that people's humanity remains intact under duress. History has shown the depravity that people are capable of under desperate circumstances.
i think the poster submitted an excellent example.
if you overrun the doctor and kill the doctor, guess what?
you have lost your humanity, you still have NO FREAKING DOCTOR now, and the rest of you are going to die (at least according to the scenario). maybe not all 99 people are that stupid.
this reminds me of zimbabwe where the people were so stupid that they killed the farmers, took the land, didn't know how to farm it, and then everybody suffered.
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My, oh my. Such anger. I must have struck a nerve.
I never stated there is a "right" to healthcare. I brought up EMTALA because it has created an ipso facto "right to healthcare" as evidenced by case law.
I don't recall Christ billing those whom he treated, nor exhorting his followers to show disdain for the poor and needy...quite the opposite, in fact. Of course, there's that little matter of the Hippocratic Oath. By all means, read both versions.
The main problem with healthcare is the cost. Quit voting in the slimeballs that are in bed with the industry causing prices to rise. Congress puts laws in place making prices higher and quality lower. That's what happens when you stifle competition. Competition is incentive. Without incentive people won't work as hard.
Ever wonder why you see more rude and inept people in government? You are their captive audience. They know that you have nowhere else to go. So shut up and take what I'm serving, you have NO CHOICE. Why thank you benevolent hand of government.
The main problem with healthcare is the cost. Quit voting in the slimeballs that are in bed with the industry causing prices to rise. Congress puts laws in place making prices higher and quality lower. That's what happens when you stifle competition. Competition is incentive. Without incentive people won't work as hard.
Ever wonder why you see more rude and inept people in government? You are their captive audience. They know that you have nowhere else to go. So shut up and take what I'm serving, you have NO CHOICE. Why thank you benevolent hand of government.
No, stop having other people pay for treatment and prices will fall like a stone. When you are spending other peoples money you don't really care about cost/benefit. When you are spending yournown money you really pay attention.
Nor did I. Both of us were pointing out some problems with the example given, period.
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