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Old 06-03-2011, 08:31 AM
 
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I read the part you quoted, I assumed you'd quote the most important part from the story.

Nope, no list of changes.. I wonder why
So in your world, pushing shady lending practices or, excuse me, "dismantling the barriers to homeownership", and keeping interest rates extraordinarily (I believe the word is actually "artificially" actually) low in no way allows us to place any blame on the Bush Administration....

How IS the sandy view in the world of the ostrich anyway?
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:32 AM
 
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strategy when proven wrong, pretend others say stuff, and then argue against what they didnt say.
you're the king of that, sweet pea. the how-to manual on that probably has your name on the cover.
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Bush and the R's are mainly responsible for the recession. Happy ?

I'm more concered with the failure of the prez elected in 2008 to get the economy back in shape. At this rate we'll be having Recovery Summer III next year.
In two years, this nation lost 8.8 million private sector jobs due to the recession. That is more than twice as many jobs as were added in 7 years BEFORE the recession. No sane person should expect a drastic turnaround in just couple of years.
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:35 AM
 
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Didn't the end of Bush's term coincide with the financial crisis? It wouldn't be surprising that his term would have posted negative net job creation.
Yes,

2000 4.0
2001 4.7
2002 5.8
2003 6.0
2004 5.5
2005 5.1
2006 4.6
2007 4.6
2008 5.8
2009 9.3
2010 9.6

US Unemployment rates...
Where can I find the unemployment rate for previous years?
Seems to me that polices in place from 2000-2008 helped keep ore people working......don't seem to be going in right direction now...
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Yeah, nobody could have predicted the debacle years ahead of time. Certainly not you, or so it seems. Job market was exceptionally strong throughout Bush Presidency, and so was the economy, right?
I think I've calculated the geometric average real GDP growth during Bush's presidency, including the financial crisis, to be about 1.8% per year or so.

I am not sure I see the point you're trying to argue
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Southeast
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In other news, 272,000 people joined the workforce in May.
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Florida
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So you think a speech, created the mortgage bubble? Wow, that Bush, he sure was powerful....
The speech??? Did someone say that the speech itself did it???

No, the speech didn't do it, it was the policies which were announced in his speech that did it. This should not be difficult to understand.
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:43 AM
 
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Except that they didn't come with government guarantees. That's why they were risky. AIG backed them and didn't have the resources to back them all.

Putting it another way, had they been backed by the US Gov't, the government wouldn't have needed to pass TARP which bought many of these fiailed mortgages.
Ahh, but the government did back them.. thats the problem.
http://www.thetruthaboutmortgage.com...new-mortgages/


Thats why the government bought the "troubled assets" as well, they were on the hook for the losses anyways.

AIG just didnt have the resources to back them for the period of time needed before the government would reimburse them for their losses. A government guaranteed reinbursement doesnt get reinbursed until after the property is re-sold, and we all know properties were sitting on the market for years. This is also why the government bailed out AIG, and why AIG was a safe investment for them as well, because these "losses" were guaranteed by the government, and by slowing down how many homes hit the market all at once, it minimized governmental losses.
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:44 AM
 
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The speech??? Did someone say that the speech itself did it???

No, the speech didn't do it, it was the policies which were announced in his speech that did it. This should not be difficult to understand.
I asked what policies were put into effect, you responded by telling me Bush made a speech.. Lets try this again..
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So in your world, pushing shady lending practices or, excuse me, "dismantling the barriers to homeownership", and keeping interest rates extraordinarily (I believe the word is actually "artificially" actually) low in no way allows us to place any blame on the Bush Administration....

How IS the sandy view in the world of the ostrich anyway?
Lets try this again with you as well..

What POLICY CHANGES were made?
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:46 AM
 
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Does this mean that the GOP will reconsider their massive budget cuts they are seeking? If they had their way an extra 750,000 men and women would be out of a job.
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