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I'll admit I haven't read all 449 posts, and I don't know how we got onto deaf people in DC from a video of people mocking homophobes. I will say this though - I love the fact that this video was posted, because it has people's attention. The gay communiy has gotten nowhere being nice. I like the fact that the phrase "F**k hate" is so catchy. I was a little weirded out by the prepubescent boys kissing, though. That would be the only thing I would change, though it does emphasize that people are in fact born gay. Some know their sexuality long before others. As for the Christians being slammed, YES! We know all Christians aren't anti-gay, and their are some that actually try to live by teachings of Christ. These are the people that need to be more vocal. The video's intent is to mock those that think hating gays will make you more like Jesus Christ. Point made.
You folks are soooo overly dramatic, just because Christians don't approve or embrace homosexuals, does not equate to hatred. The hatred is all coming from your side. It is you that strive to denigrate, ridicule, and be as offensive as possible, pushing Christians into the closet with duct tape over their mouths. You are the ones doing the forcing of your beliefs on the populace and in the schools. In CA the vote of the people said no to this agenda twice. Our gov't is of the people, by the people, and the people have spoken.
OK .. You've already outlined your education experience so, I already have a feel for what is happening here. You don't have a foundation ... no historical context to draw upon here it seems ... so we need to start there. Communism is Left Wing, that's the historic fact. Fascism is Left Wing (some might argue that, but they'd lose) and Socialism is Left Wing.
And you've just outlined that you have no education, short of listening to Limbaugh and Beck.
You folks are soooo overly dramatic, just because Christians don't approve or embrace homosexuals, does not equate to hatred. The hatred is all coming from your side. It is you that strive to denigrate, ridicule, and be as offensive as possible, pushing Christians into the closet with duct tape over their mouths. You are the ones doing the forcing of your beliefs on the populace and in the schools. In CA the vote of the people said no to this agenda twice. Our gov't is of the people, by the people, and the people have spoken.
It IS hatred because you will legislate your views. You will form the "bedroom police" if you can only figure out how to exempt yourself. This is just being a good "pragmatic" conservative.
The Bible only vaguely addresses this subject, and makes no strong point about it. Otherwise it would be all over the Bible if it was such a grave concern.
Therefore you are willing to have govt ban it based upon nothing but your personal embarrassment.
What happened to your "hands off" govt? Better to just have it on your side, right?
Nobody is pushing Christians into the closet. It's just that peoples' bedroom habits is none of your business. Or tell me rationally why it IS your business, that would help (note the key word "rationally").
Tell me how you are threatened, I still haven't figured that out.
Then why does the one boy, who appears to be about 10 or 11 yrs. old say something to the effect of "If I grow up to be Gay, I want to marry," as he kisses the other young boy?
Born that way or Grow up and become that way? (with a little help from ads such as this or Lady Ga Ga, etc.)
Yeah, you were really for ssm at one time. Please. The fact that you're asking these questions and making these kinds of comments show how full of crap you were when you originally stated that. You sound like every other person who can't use facts to support a position.
It IS hatred because you will legislate your views. You will form the "bedroom police" if you can only figure out how to exempt yourself. This is just being a good "pragmatic" conservative.
The Bible only vaguely addresses this subject, and makes no strong point about it. Otherwise it would be all over the Bible if it was such a grave concern.
Therefore you are willing to have govt ban it based upon nothing but your personal embarrassment.
What happened to your "hands off" govt? Better to just have it on your side, right?
Nobody is pushing Christians into the closet. It's just that peoples' bedroom habits is none of your business. Or tell me rationally why it IS your business, that would help (note the key word "rationally").
Tell me how you are threatened, I still haven't figured that out.
You're the one's that are demanding gov't sanction your activity. The laws DOMA, and DADT worked perfectly fine. Our representatives have represented their constituents and the will of most Americans with this legislation. Don't keep dragging the rest of us into your private business - we don't want to know. We take pity on you, as exceptions to the norm, but that doesn't entitle you to override the will of the people.
How are we threated? You have attacked the very foundation of this country, family, morality, religious principles, and the innocence of our children. You do this by using the power of gov't and courts against us. As the saying goes, the gov't should fear the people, not the other way around.
The only hatred I see is coming from your side against everything considered American culture and tradtion.
You're the one's that are demanding gov't sanction your activity. The laws DOMA, and DADT worked perfectly fine. Our representatives have represented their constituents and the will of most Americans with this legislation. Don't keep dragging the rest of us into your private business - we don't want to know. We take pity on you, as exceptions to the norm, but that doesn't entitle you to override the will of the people.
How are we threated? You have attacked the very foundation of this country, family, morality, religious principles, and the innocence of our children. You do this by using the power of gov't and courts against us. As the saying goes, the gov't should fear the people, not the other way around.
The only hatred I see is coming from your side against everything considered American culture and tradtion.
LOL, seriously? Did you imagine old Glory flapping in the background and the Star Spangled Banner playing as you took your verbal stand against the "assault on everything considered American culture and tradition?"
That's the problem with people like you. You think you're the ones who are "true Americans." In MY America, and MY ideals of FREEDOM, people get to live openly as they ARE, without fear of retribution from psychopaths who fancy themselves soldiers for some LIMITED version of life liberty and justice.
We do not have the same ideals as what was prevalent at the "foundation" of this country, so get used to it. To cling to same would mean your closest black neighbors would be slaves, your wife and daughters precluded from certain professions and from voting, and your children would play with kids who spend 12 hours a day in a factory.
You want a "traditional lifestyle"? MAKE ONE FOR YOURSELF! Do as the Amish do! They stick to their personal beliefs and ideals WITHOUT introducing legislation or perpetuating policies that would restrict the REST of us from enjoying life in ways that they do not believe in. Some people are just BUSY BODIES, though. Not content unless they're telling people how to live!
It's just that peoples' bedroom habits is none of your business.
Really? If homosexuals claim not to want what goes on in the bedroom to be anyone else's business then why do they persist with the “in your face” attitude all the time? Nobody wants to know that you are homosexual but for some peculiar reason it is important to the homosexual that people not only know that they are homosexual but that they embrace it with the same enthusiasm as they do. If homosexuals want their business private then keep it to yourself and stop throwing it in people's faces.
Really? If homosexuals claim not to want what goes on in the bedroom to be anyone else's business then why do they persist with the “in your face” attitude all the time? Nobody wants to know that you are homosexual but for some peculiar reason it is important to the homosexual that people not only know that they are homosexual but that they embrace it with the same enthusiasm as they do. If homosexuals want their business private then keep it to yourself and stop throwing it in people's faces.
You're a bit confused.
As a member of a supposedly free society, you have "no business" dictating, interfering, or restricting people's consensual adult bedroom antics via law.
Whether or not you have to endure gossip, loud descriptions of bedroom antics, pictures, magazine articles or movies discussing consensual adult bedroom antics is a COMPLETELY different story. My secretary's compatriot bothers me often about her heterosexual relationship problems, etc. My not wanting to be subjected to stories and descriptions of her private relations has NO BEARING, and gives me NO RIGHT, to pass laws restricting her ability to engage in same.
If I were to advocate for said laws, and she said, 'how dare you believe you have the right to interfere in my personal life' I would look like a complete clueless arse if I said, "if you don't want me to restrict your life and pass laws preventing you from divorcing, don't talk to me about it."
How are we threated? You have attacked the very foundation of this country, family, morality, religious principles, and the innocence of our children. You do this by using the power of gov't and courts against us. As the saying goes, the gov't should fear the people, not the other way around.
The only hatred I see is coming from your side against everything considered American culture and tradtion.
Really claudhopper, this is vague enough to be a Limbaugh platitude.
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Originally Posted by JobZombie
Really? If homosexuals claim not to want what goes on in the bedroom to be anyone else's business then why do they persist with the “in your face” attitude all the time? Nobody wants to know that you are homosexual but for some peculiar reason it is important to the homosexual that people not only know that they are homosexual but that they embrace it with the same enthusiasm as they do. If homosexuals want their business private then keep it to yourself and stop throwing it in people's faces.
Don't forget, the corporate media loves this stuff, and puts people "in your face". Gays don't "want" you to know they are gay - where do you get this? They want the rights that other people have, which they are now denied. You want them to just quit complaining about their plight. Out of sight, out of mind, not your problem.
BTW if they get these rights, you probably won't hear from them again - problem solved.
Really? If homosexuals claim not to want what goes on in the bedroom to be anyone else's business then why do they persist with the “in your face” attitude all the time? Nobody wants to know that you are homosexual but for some peculiar reason it is important to the homosexual that people not only know that they are homosexual but that they embrace it with the same enthusiasm as they do. If homosexuals want their business private then keep it to yourself and stop throwing it in people's faces.
Maybe when the bigots give up fighting and gays are given the equal rights that they deserve, they will no longer be forced to get in anyone's face. If you want to use laws to deny people civil rights and equal treatment then you should fully expect that they are going to be in your face the entire time.
It actually seems like it is the conservatives and religious fundamentalists that want to keep pointing out other people's sexual preferences. Doesn't the whole issue of denying marriage rights center around the fact that some people believe that gays should be treated differently just because they are gay? How does that square with your contention that nobody wants to know if they are homosexual? If your statement was true, gay marriage would be legal nationwide and these arguments would have long ago been rendered moot.
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This is just being a good "pragmatic" conservative.
