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No one has the right to be where ever they want when ever they want, even if you do it peacefully. And they aren't even all that peaceful. What a bunch of selfish lazy pigs.
Just using your post to keep posting the attack list. Thank you.
51.Dal.las: 10/24/2011 — Police Investigating Possible S@xual @ssault Of Teen At Occupy Dallas
52.Bl00mington, IN: 10/26/2011 — Man Claims Occupy Bl00mington Protesters DrUgged, H@ndcuffed Him
53.NY: 10/10/2011 — S@x, Drugs and Hiding from the Law at Wall Street Protests
54.Glasg.ow: 10/26/2011 — Woman Gang-R@ped
55.Boston: 10/23/2011 — Occupy Boston Protesters Arrested For De@ling Her0in – With 6 Year-Old in Tent
56.Portland: 10/16/2011 – S@x Offender Registers Occupy Portland Camp as Address
57.Denver: 10/15/2011 — Occupy Denver Demonstrator Accused of Gr0ping TV Ph0t0grapher
58.Lawrence, KS: 10/25/2011 — S@xual @ssault Reported at Occupy Camp
59.Minneapolis, MN: Bricks, Rocks, ‘Ri0t Supplies’ Discovered by Police
60.Phoenix, AZ: 10/27/2011 — Neo-N@zis Patrol “Occupy Phoenix” With A.R-1.5′s
62.10/26/2011 — ACORN, Occupy Email Talks About @ssault on Banks
63.10/26/61.Chicago: 10/26/2011 — Occupy Chicago Inv@des City Hall
2011 – OccupyWallStreet Str@tegy for Rep0rts of Vi0lence Ag@inst Cops
64.Chicago: 10/26/2011 — Un.repen.tant Dom.estic Ter.ror.ist Bill Ayers Wows Occupiers
You betcha! They were TOLD to leave by the university, by the police and then started surrounding the police.
It only stings for a bit.
Obviously the university doesn't want another stinking, filthy squatters camp on the grounds.
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Finkie, good that you posted about Anne Frank, because these 'people' are also ANTI SEMETIC. You just don't have enough information about the OWS.
65.Ch.icago: 10/25/2011 — Aye.rs Co@ches #OccupyChicago, Calls for School ‘Oc.cupations’
66.10/26/2011/ — Occ.upy P0otests Have Jew.ish Leaders Con.cer.ned
67.Wash DC: 10/27/2011 – OccupyDC Pr0v0ke Police – H@ng Fl@g on Top of DC Sta.tue
68.Albu.quer.que, N.M: 10/26/2011 — Occ.upy Squ@tters Ri0t With P0lice
70.Oakla.nd: 10/25/2011 — Occupiers Thr0w B0ttles at Police
71.NY: 10/27/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Protesters: Rush Limbaugh Is Bigger Thre@t Than @l-Q@eda
72.10/27/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Launching First Nationwide General Str.ike in America Since 1946
73.NY: 10/28/2011 — Fox 5 News Reporter @ssaulted at OWS
74.10/28/2001 — Total Occupy Arrests Made Thus Far: 2750
75.Na.shville: 10/28/2011 — 30 Arrests Made at Wall St. Protest
76.NY: 10/20/2011 — Former Marine Tries to T@unt Police into Violence
77.NY: 1023/2011 — Is!amist Group Joins with Occupy Wall Street
78.Los Angeles: 10/13/2011 — Roundup of Overt Occupy anti-Semitism
79.NY: 10/12/2011 — There are No Anti-Semites at Occupy Wall Street. Except for This Guy
80.Missoula, MT: 10/20/2011 — Drunk 11-Year-Old At Occupy Missoula, Adult Arrested
81.Oakland: 10/28/2011 — Bounty Out On Police Officer?
82.Manchester, NH: 10/28/2011 – Woman charged with p!mping teen recruited at Occupy NH rally
83.San D!ego: 10/28/2011 – 40 Occupiers arrested
84.Boston: 10/24/2011 — Occupy Boston Vandalism of Banks
85.Boston: 10/25/2011 – Store Owner Suffers 4 Break Ins Since Occupy Boston Began
86.Portland: 10/28/2011 — Portland Police: Buckets of Excrement Scattered Around #OccupyPortland Camp
87.Seattle: 10/20/2011 — Two Possible Occupiers Charged With @ssault
88.Seattle: 10/18/2011 — Armed FElon Arrested at Occupy Seattle
89.Seattle: 10/18/2011 — A Tent Fight and (At Least) One Arrest at Occupy Seattle
90.Seattle: 10/17/2011 — Over 50 Cops Clear Westlake Occupation, Make Eight Arrests
91.Seattle: 10/13/2011 — Cops Arrest Several Occupy Protesters
Originally Posted by jujulu This is criminal, an abridgement of our 1st amendment rights. These jackbooted thugs need to lose their badges for this. . Actullay jujulu, OWS are INFRINGING on the rest of the peoples rights! They are keeping traffic stopped, and squatting in the middle of the street, They won't let people, enter their job sites, business's are losing money or having to shut down. ONLY THE OWS have first amendment rights? Don't try to make the police,( "God bless them',) out to be some kind of n3zi. You are showing your ignorance. And, if YOU WERE ATTACKED, ROBBED, you would call an OWS for help or the.............wait for it.......................................POLICE?
You don't have the right to sit down where ever you want and stay there however long you want. I think the only place I can do that is my own house and that is only as long as I pay the property taxes.
If I chose instead to sit down at a neighbors house, invited or not, I have to leave eventually. Even if I peacefully just sit there. They have rights.
Even public property. The public means everybody. It can't become your home even if you pitch a tent. You don't have the right to take public access away from everyone else.
Lets see if I can clear this up for you. You can be at your house when ever you want and even then you have to cover the costs of being there. Anywhere else, someone else, be it government or individual or group, gives you the right or permission to be there on their terms. Your home belongs to you and the other places don't. That is not their university. If they pay their student loans then they are paying for the use of it. Why do the protesters think they have more rights than everyone else?
Oh, I think the entire OWS 'movement' is a colossal waste of time and energy. But, Police are supposed to be professionals and a professional would pick up someone in the way and cart their ass off to the pokey.
Not anymore, thanks to trial lawyers. Too many lawsuits and disability claims because of picking people up.
Disgusting, your obvious hatred of police officers.
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Originally Posted by Autumntimetwo Originally Posted by jujulu This is criminal, an abridgement of our 1st amendment rights. These jackbooted thugs need to lose their badges for this.
Sorry, jujulu, you are uninformed, maybe you should join some OWS? 92.Seattle: 10/13/2011 — Chanting Protesters Surround Police After Officers Arrest Two 93.Denver: 10/29/2011 — Protesters Clash with Police at OWS Denver 94.Austin: 10/13/2011 – Occupy Austin protesters arrested for blocking cleaning Crews 95.Calgary, CN: 10/28/2011 — Occupiers do $40,000 in Property Damage 96.Cincinnati, OH: 10/21/2011 — 23 Arrested, Remains of protests fill two dumpsters 97.Sacramento: 10/19/2011 – 9 arrested in ‘Occupy Sacramento’ protest 98.Sacramento: 10/13/2011 – Four More Occupy Sacramento Demonstrators Arrested 99.Austin, TX: 10/22/2011 – Man Arrested After Knife Incident at Occupy Austin Camp 100.Nashville: 10/29/2011 — Tenn. Protesters Arrested For 2nd Straight Night 100.Nashville: 10/29/2011 — Tenn. Protesters Arrested For 2nd Straight Night 101.Austin, TX: 10/30/2011 – Austin Police arrest 38 Occupy Austin Protesters 102.NY: 10/30/2011 — Woman @ssaulted in Her tent 103.Orlando, FL: 10/28/2011 – Occupy Orlando, police clash over use of downtown park 104.Orlando, FL: 10/26/2011 – 2 Occupy Orlando protesters arrested for tresp@ss 105.Orlando, FL: 10/22/2011 – Police arrest 19 Orlando protesters on tresp@ss charges 106.A.sheville, NC: 10/30/2011 – Occupiers Clash with Homeless in Asheville 107.Nationwide: 10/27/2011 — Pro-Occupy Site claims 2511 Arrests Thus Far 108.Fort Worth, TX: 10/16/2011 — Arrests at Occupy Fort Worth Protest 109.NY: 10/29/2011 — Three Incidents of Anti-Semitism 110.San Fran.cis.co: 10/29/2011 — Anti-Semitic, Folsom Street Fair Types & Che Guevara Lovin 111.Oklahoma City: 10/30/2011 — Death of Street Poet at #OccupyOKC Treated as H0micide 112.Baltimore: 10/31/2011 — Woman Claims She was R@ped at #OccupyBaltimore 113.Boston: 10/31/2001 — Alleged Heroin Dealer Joined Occupy Movement 114.Ottawa: 10/31/2011 — #OccupyOttawa Violent & S@xual @@ssaults Not Reported to Police 115.Santa Barbara, CA: 10/5/2011 — Occupiers Defy Police 116.Santa Barbara, CA: 10/6/2011 — 8 Occupiers Arrested 117.Denver, CO: 10/31/2011 — Occupiers Taunt Police, Knock Motorcycle Cop to Ground 118.Dallas, TX: 10/24/2011 — 23 Occupy Dallas Protesters Arrested After Bank Demonstration 119.Richmond, VA: 10/31/2011 — Arrests of Occupiers in Richmond 120.Dallas, TX: 1v1/1/2011: Man Arrested for Child S@x @ssault at Occupy Dallas Camp 121.NY: 11/1/2011 — Protesters Flock to STD-Test Clinics After Occupier ‘Free Love’ 122.Iowa: 11/1/2011 — Occupiers Intend to Disrupt Iowa Caucus 123.NY: 11/1/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Costs Main Street Workers Their Jobs 124.San D!ego: 10/29/2011 — Businesswoman Closes Shop After Thre@ts By Occupiers 125.Palm Desert, CA: 11/1/2011 — Occupiers Arrested
Updated list as of 11/19/2011 shows 302 'infractions'.
Funny that the person who put up the video didn't include what lead up to the police having to pepper spray them. Pepper spray is far better than bullets.
All that was needed from that video was the first 33 seconds. All I got out of the rest of the video was: Shame on you and that it was 'their university'. Which brings up the point, if it's "their university" then they should damn well pay their student loans rather than ask for a free education.
High five, so true. Typical liberals, they want to be as NASTY, confrontational, attacking, as they WANT TO BE, but if someone, wants to say something about that behavior..............."police brutality, those poor OWS, Kids, etc. " If you can't conduct yourself with some civility, manners, or follow the rules, you deserve EVERY KIND OF restraint that is allowed by the law. OWS, don't care what they do to the rest of society; crap on cop car, (there is a video), another man taking a crap, on top of the American flag. Defecating and urinating all over the place. OH, THERE IS AN OUTBREAK OF TB in those camps now. Such lovely people.
First of all, it's hard to make judgments based on a video that has been edited. People think they see what they think they see, but unless you watch the entire event from beginning to end - which could take hours - there's no telling what happened in the context of the situation as a whole.
I'm quite sympathetic to protesters and their rights, but the rights of peaceable assembly are also balanced with the public interests of maintaining safety and public order. It's a fine line, and sometimes it's crossed by both protesters who are exercising their First Amendment rights and by the police whose job it is to maintain civil order.
From what I can tell, we have two questions:
1) Were the authorities acting within the scope of their authorities to remove by force the protesters in question.
2) If so, did the officers use excessive force, given the fact that the protesters apparently failed to comply with such requests.
From what I can tell and from what I remember about constitutional law, the officers do have the authority to regulate, within reason, protests. Some are obviously arguing otherwise, but I stand by it. The police were not trying to control the message of the protesters. They were not trying to disrupt the protests for the sake of disrupting protests. It would appear that they were acting on what they believed to be a legitimate concern about maintaining public order. The students were, based on what I saw, blocking the flow of pedestrian traffic on a public campus. Protesters have the right to protest, but they do not have the right to block the flow of pedestrian traffic. And this is exactly why, for example, abortion clinic protesters are carried away in handcuffs all the same. They, too, surely argued that it's their First Amendment right to protest, and the Courts responded by pointing out that this is not an absolute 'right' that can be used to interfere with civil order. Thus, I think the officers had every right to ask the protesters to leave.
The next question is less clear. Was pepper spray absolutely necessary in this situation. I am less confident about that, particularly when the officers had not attempted to make an arrest. It would seem that just using pepper spray would need some sort of justification. That would be either in the form of a legitimate case of self-defense, which is not apparent according to the video, or it would be in response to an attempt to subdue a person of interest. Whether it is acceptable to use pepper spray to disperse a crowd is not entirely clear in my mind. Maybe some things were said to the officers that were not audible. But it would seem to me that, at the very least, the police force needs to review its procedures. Whether the students can sue or not is also not clear.
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OWS are anti semetic,
