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Old 12-07-2011, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Sure why not. Let private companies pay the traditional first 6 weeks and then the Federal Government can pick up the tab for the other 46 weeks of salary and health insurance premiums.

Go for it..we got a printing press and no one seems to care that we have no surplus anymore.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:13 PM
 
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Sure why not. Let private companies pay the traditional first 6 weeks and then the Federal Government can pick up the tab for the other 46 weeks of salary and health insurance premiums.

Go for it..we got a printing press and no one seems to care that we have no surplus anymore.
These folks call that "stimulus" (stim-you-lost).
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Ya, we talk a good game about family values but we don't really support families as well as other counties.
Who pays?

We should strive to be more like Greece, Spain, Italy and Portugal to name four? Very generous public benefits worked out very well for them.

And if that $15/hr minimum wage in Australia sounds good you ought to check out and see what kind of a shack (a real shack) $200k buys over there. You think housing prices are high in San Francisco?

In the end someone has to pay, who? You?
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Can you imagine receiving 6 to 12 months or more of paid time off to have a baby?

No. And I can't imagine working my azz off to pay for somebody else who chooses to have a baby and take off work for 12 months.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Who pays?

We should strive to be more like Greece, Spain, Italy and Portugal to name four? Very generous public benefits worked out very well for them.

And if that $15/hr minimum wage in Australia sounds good you ought to check out and see what kind of a shack (a real shack) $200k buys over there. You think housing prices are high in San Francisco?

In the end someone has to pay, who? You?

It's always easy to give other people's money away..... That's the lifeblood of liberals.... OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY.

I wonder how many on this board would be willing to pay me out of their own pocket for a year to take care of my baby
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:22 PM
 
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It's always easy to give other people's money away..... That's the lifeblood of liberals.... OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY.

I wonder how many on this board would be willing to pay me out of their own pocket for a year to take care of my baby
Actually, it's taxes that have been paid to the country. Once you do that, it's our money.
We pay to be a citizen here, and if we're all so upset about minorities and illegal aliens having such high birthrates, why not have paid maternity leave so all the conservative white citizens can get the racial balance thing back on track.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If you live in the United States, you can't imagine it.



U.S. Maternity Leave Benefits Are Still Dismal - Forbes.com

....The U.S. and Australia are the only developed economies in the world that provide no paid maternity leave. France, Singapore and Austria all offer four months' paid maternity leave benefits, and Germany offers 14 weeks. In the U.K., a woman receives 90% of her salary for up to a year off with her baby. Swedish mothers hit the jackpot with 480 days off at 80% of their salary, followed by their counterparts in Serbia and Denmark with a full year off at full pay. Even in Gambia, Somalia and Vietnam new mothers receive at least three months' paid maternity leave.
That's so rediculous!! If you want to stay home with your baby (which is what's best for the baby) then stop working/holding on to a job that someone else could use!

This is totally the "have you're cake and eat it too" "entitlement" mentality!! You're not ENTITLED to have a job and you're not ENTITTLED to have a family. You need to either choose one or the other, or find a way for YOU to do it by yourself.... like starting your own home based business!

That's what I did... and it wasn't easy, but I'd rather live on a small budget and be home with my children than try to squeeze money out of an employer for nothing! Talk about unfair!
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:23 PM
 
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Canada has very high immigration rate with lots of minorities.
But over there you still get up to 50 weeks of paid leave at 55% of pay.
(35 weeks for the mom + 15 weeks for the dad).

In America we probably think such generous benefits are over the top
but it seems to be pretty normal in other countries.
Ok, maybe the fact we have 350 million people to Canada's 35 million? People come cheap perhaps. I'm just looking at the glass half empty. Or put it this way, if Americans started leaving the US for a better life down the road I'm sure plenty of baby benefits would materialize out of thin air.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:27 PM
 
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Can you imagine receiving 6 to 12 months or more of paid time off to have a baby?

No. And I can't imagine working my azz off to pay for somebody else who chooses to have a baby and take off work for 12 months.

It doesn't have to be for a whole 12 months.

4 to 6 months of paid leave would be adequate for the US, IMO.

Most working mothers in the states can't afford to take even a month off when they are pregnant because they would lose their income since the time off isn't paid. They could end on the street if they took leave. So they end up working late into their pregnancy which is bad for their health and bad for the baby's health. I thought people were supposed to be pro-life here in America? Or is it all talk?
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:30 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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If you live in the United States, you can't imagine it.



U.S. Maternity Leave Benefits Are Still Dismal - Forbes.com

....The U.S. and Australia are the only developed economies in the world that provide no paid maternity leave. France, Singapore and Austria all offer four months' paid maternity leave benefits, and Germany offers 14 weeks. In the U.K., a woman receives 90% of her salary for up to a year off with her baby. Swedish mothers hit the jackpot with 480 days off at 80% of their salary, followed by their counterparts in Serbia and Denmark with a full year off at full pay. Even in Gambia, Somalia and Vietnam new mothers receive at least three months' paid maternity leave.
Pregnancy is a voluntary condition. Nobody gets a year off when they decide to get a face lift or nose job.

Same deal.

20yrsinBranson
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