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Old 12-07-2011, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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In America we probably think such generous benefits are over the top
but it seems to be pretty normal in other countries.
It was normal in Nazi Germany to kill Jews too. It was normal in the USA 200 years ago to have slaves. Normal has no value.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:50 PM
 
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Not to mention the possibility of losing one's health insurance. It's not even a stretch to think that some employers would fire the expecting mother for some off the wall reason.
You obviously don't employ anyone and have never had to work through the logistics of FMLA.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:51 PM
 
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I know someone who had a baby a few years ago that gets 2 months maternity leave. Which seems okay. However, her husband (who works for the state) gets 6 months of paternity leave! You could imagine how she felt about that!
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:51 PM
 
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It doesn't have to be for a whole 12 months.

4 to 6 months of paid leave would be adequate for the US, IMO.

Most working mothers in the states can't afford to take even a month off when they are pregnant because they would lose their income since the time off isn't paid.

Then don't have a baby. It's really quite simple. If you can't afford to take care of a kid, don't have a baby.

Why is that such a difficult concept?
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Here
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And just how are you going to pay for it? Oh, I know. Lets tax the rich some more.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:53 PM
 
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It was normal in Nazi Germany to kill Jews too. It was normal in the USA 200 years ago to have slaves. Normal has no value.
200 years? When I was born the civil war ended 92 years before I was born. I'm old as dirt I suppose!
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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Please cite where working until late in a pregnancy is bad for the mother's or baby's health? If she has an uneventful, healthy pregnancy, there is no reason not to work.
Depends on the job I suppose. I'm an aircraft mechanic and it would be impossible for me to work while pregnant, since our entire facility is filled with hazardous chemicals.

If its an office job I see no reason why she can't work until pretty far into the pregnancy.

As for the thread in general, I'm a liberal female who feels that paid time off is nice and all, but that you should have known about needing time off before you got pregnant and planned accordingly.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:55 PM
 
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Then don't have a baby. It's really quite simple. If you can't afford to take care of a kid, don't have a baby.

Why is that such a difficult concept?
If your default position is the government owes you then it's extremely difficult to grasp.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:58 PM
 
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Babies just happen... The stork has a roulette wheel and spins it and if your name comes up, poof, you're pregnant. Since it's all just a game of chance for some obscure stork both abortions and pregnancies should be subsidized for whoever long that oppressive stork feels the need to afflict you with his vicious wrath.
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Old 12-07-2011, 06:01 PM
 
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You obviously don't employ anyone and have never had to work through the logistics of FMLA.
Common since tells me without a doubt that if a cheap employer wants to get rid of a expecting mother they can. Especially in some low pay, penny pinching state. I'm absolutely sure it happens quite often.
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