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Old 12-07-2011, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Hyrule
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Let's not forget... some women are serial birthers. They can take time off for YEARS. All the more encouragement to discriminate against women of child-bearing age.
Serial birthers? Ha, I'm guessing you're a man and couldn't manage to squeeze one out. Any woman knows it's harder to give birth than work a couple of extra months.
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:14 PM
 
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Listen folks, having babies isn't a ploy to get welfare, it's the reason you're all here. I'm getting a little tired of how lightly the job of having kids is being taken. It's what we are made to do, it has far more meaning then saving the government tax payers a few bucks. It should be covered and expected for woman who work. If you don't want woman working pay men a salary that can actually support a darn family!!!
If you all don't have a little respect we can stop having babies at anytime and see where that'll get ya. You definitely won't have to worry about financial obligation with no population.
So we should subsidize surrogate mothers and prostitutes. Gotcha.
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:19 PM
 
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And why is that? There are also a whole slew of companies that use the government breaks because they can't really afford to own their companies and give people a decent living.
Is that okey dokey? People set fire to their offices to get money back on a failing business. etc. etc. People take advantage of the system but by no means are they the majority. Those people should not be the excuse used to limit paid time off for your everyday hard working mother.
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Hyrule
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So we should subsidize surrogate mothers and prostitutes. Gotcha.
A surrogate mother wouldn't be caring for the baby and whats prostitutes have to do with it? The legal ones are working double time in my opinion, if it's legal than sure. Why not, their babies don't need care?
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:25 PM
 
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And why is that? There are also a whole slew of companies that use the government breaks because they can't really afford to own their companies and give people a decent living.
Is that okey dokey? People set fire to their offices to get money back on a failing business. etc. etc. People take advantage of the system but by no means are they the majority. Those people should not be the excuse used to limit paid time off for your everyday hard working mother.
You fail to understand that if people can get paid to not work they'll do just that. It doesn't matter the race, the age, the sex or the hair color. That's the whole point in limiting UI because if it wasn't people wouldn't look for a job.

If you can pop a baby out and take 12 months PTO and then go to work for another 12 months and do it all over again that's exactly what you'd get, a part time employee with full benefits and a law requiring that you keep their job available for them while they went on the humping like mad rabbits spree.

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Old 12-07-2011, 07:33 PM
 
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Serial birthers? Ha, I'm guessing you're a man and couldn't manage to squeeze one out. Any woman knows it's harder to give birth than work a couple of extra months.
Don't act so clueless... it's not conducive to the topic.

I'm a woman, never intended to "squeeze one out." But I've had to cover for those who did...every 1-2 years. I know what I speak of.

I know it's a challenge for most women, but what is so hard about planning/saving in advance of pregnancy? Most do that for their first car.
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:43 PM
 
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You fail to understand that if people can get paid to not work they'll do just that. It doesn't matter the race, the age, the sex or the hair color. That's the whole point in limiting UI because if it wasn't people wouldn't look ofr a job.

If you can pop a baby out and take 12 months PTO and then go to work for another 12 months and do it all over again that's exactly what you'd get, a part time employee with full benefits and a law requiring that you keep their job available for them while they went on the humping like mad rabbits spree.
No, but what I do clearly understand is that one of the reasons America falls behind the rest of the world is because we are still stupid enough to believe that woman can be controlled by idiotic morons limiting their welfare and care. Without any proof mind you of all the woman in other countries using their benefits as full time employment and pumping out babies like crazy. We are still considered mindless soul suckers in the U.S. Unable to control the urge to use up mans money giving birth to their fricken brats. We are soooo behind humanity and I'm sick of men thinking woman have no control without them controlling us. Please, yes, all the other woman are career birthers in the other countries that have benefits, but not in America because we keep em down and limit any benefit they could get for birthing a baby. Do you really believe yourself?
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:44 PM
 
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Don't act so clueless... it's not conducive to the topic.

I'm a woman, never intended to "squeeze one out." But I've had to cover for those who did...every 1-2 years. I know what I speak of.

I know it's a challenge for most women, but what is so hard about planning/saving in advance of pregnancy? Most do that for their first car.
Well, the government subsidizes cars now too. Just look at how successful that program is...

They subsidize housing, too, how's that program?

They'll even subsidize schooling, what's that look like these days?
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:45 PM
 
Location: California
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No, but what I do clearly understand is that one of the reasons America falls behind the rest of the world is because we are still stupid enough to believe that woman can be controlled by idiotic morons limiting their welfare and care. Without any proof mind you of all the woman in other countries using their benefits as full time employment and pumping out babies like crazy. We are still considered mindless soul suckers in the U.S. Unable to control the urge to use up mans money giving birth to their fricken brats. We are soooo behind humanity and I'm sick of men thinking woman have no control without them controlling us. Please, yes, all the other woman are career birthers in the other countries that have benefits, but not in America because we keep em down and limit any benefit they could get for birthing a baby. Do you really believe yourself?
What are we limiting?? I think American women are more FREE than just about anywhere else in the world. We have more choices than ever. Maybe that is why things are different here.
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:46 PM
 
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No, but what I do clearly understand is that one of the reasons America falls behind the rest of the world is because we are still stupid enough to believe that woman can be controlled by idiotic morons limiting their welfare and care. Without any proof mind you of all the woman in other countries using their benefits as full time employment and pumping out babies like crazy. We are still considered mindless soul suckers in the U.S. Unable to control the urge to use up mans money giving birth to their fricken brats. We are soooo behind humanity and I'm sick of men thinking woman have no control without them controlling us. Please, yes, all the other woman are career birthers in the other countries that have benefits, but not in America because we keep em down and limit any benefit they could get for birthing a baby. Do you really believe yourself?
Okay, name these countries and we'll discuss them one by one.
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