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My worry is, is this legal? Is it constitutional? US citizens are guaranteed the right to a fair trial, whatever that means in our modern legal system.
I'm not even sure it could get before the Supreme Court, and what are they going to do? Defund the entire defense department?
Are you posters truly that stupid that you cannot even be bothered to read the law to see that it is no different from any other law we have had in the past? Truly amazing.
In absolutely every war we have been engaged, the US has taken POWs and held them in custody indefinitely, without charging them. When the war ended those POWs were either released or charged with war crimes. Under Public Law 107-40, which is still in effect, the US is still in a state of war. Get a clue you morons!
So you are saying all the Politicians who have read and voted on it (including several with Law degrees) are lying?
LOL
Please show me a link of POWs who were arrested in US Soil or a US territory where the US Constitution APPLIES?
I am waiting.
Also, the bill is in the hot seat because it will violate our rights under the 5th Amendment which states that we are entitled to DUE PROCESS.
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I can (and probably will) do that. But don't see how it will do much good.
The way the system is set up, you need tens of millions of dollars to run a viable campaign and you only get that kind of money with Wall Street backing. In other words, only the very rich (and those who kiss up to them) are allowed to participate in the election process as a candidate.
I just received this email today at 3:51 PM with a "Please Forward" preface on it.
"Angry about SB1867 and the feds being able to detain you indefinitely? There is a solution but we need your help!
The El Paso County Colorado Commissioners will be voting on precedent setting policy to decide whether or not El Paso County, Colorado will oppose the language within Federal Governments SB1867 that repeals Habeas corpus & Unconstitutional Executive Orders.
We need your help by attending this meeting or promoting this policy in your county, state and Sheriff's office.
Please distribute nationwide and carry forward in your county
In El Paso County, Colorado, County Commissioner Peggy Littleton is bravely championing a County Policy that Freedom Action Coalition Team presented for consideration and then was modified specifically for El Paso County, Colorado as a solution to the overreaching arm of the Federal Government. If passed, the Policy states the federal government does not have jurisdiction over the county and the county may protect its citizens from the language in SB1867 that denies us the right to Habeas corpus, Presidential Executive Orders and other Federal Departments which have been acting as policing agents without rightful jurisdiction and under unconstitutional rulemaking authority. This County Policy would override the federal government imposing unconstitutional policing from all federal departments. But we need your help to get it passed in El Paso County as well as other counties across the nation. Please come to the meeting if you are in the county and take/promote it to your legislators if you are not. This truly is small government taking on Goliath!
El Paso County Board of County Commissioners Meeting
Thursday December 15th, 2011
2:30 approximately,
Akers Drive Facility
3275 Akers Drive
Colorado Springs, CO
If you do not live in El Paso County, Colorado, this still applies to you. Please have your local representatives pass this policy in your county.
I will be sending out a second email with the actual language of the Resolution once it is finalized or if you do not receive the language, because of a family emergency. You can go to the El Paso County Website Thursdays agenda and get a copy. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me at the email below."
I just received this email today at 3:51 PM with a "Please Forward" preface on it.
"Angry about SB1867 and the feds being able to detain you indefinitely? There is a solution but we need your help!
The El Paso County Colorado Commissioners will be voting on precedent setting policy to decide whether or not El Paso County, Colorado will oppose the language within Federal Governments SB1867 that repeals Habeas corpus & Unconstitutional Executive Orders.
We need your help by attending this meeting or promoting this policy in your county, state and Sheriff's office.
Please distribute nationwide and carry forward in your county
In El Paso County, Colorado, County Commissioner Peggy Littleton is bravely championing a County Policy that Freedom Action Coalition Team presented for consideration and then was modified specifically for El Paso County, Colorado as a solution to the overreaching arm of the Federal Government. If passed, the Policy states the federal government does not have jurisdiction over the county and the county may protect its citizens from the language in SB1867 that denies us the right to Habeas corpus, Presidential Executive Orders and other Federal Departments which have been acting as policing agents without rightful jurisdiction and under unconstitutional rulemaking authority. This County Policy would override the federal government imposing unconstitutional policing from all federal departments. But we need your help to get it passed in El Paso County as well as other counties across the nation. Please come to the meeting if you are in the county and take/promote it to your legislators if you are not. This truly is small government taking on Goliath!
El Paso County Board of County Commissioners Meeting
Thursday December 15th, 2011
2:30 approximately,
Akers Drive Facility
3275 Akers Drive
Colorado Springs, CO
If you do not live in El Paso County, Colorado, this still applies to you. Please have your local representatives pass this policy in your county.
I will be sending out a second email with the actual language of the Resolution once it is finalized or if you do not receive the language, because of a family emergency. You can go to the El Paso County Website Thursdays agenda and get a copy. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me at the email below."
Too bad I do not live in Co Springs anymore.
However, people need to start calling, e-mailing, faxing their Representatives NOW.
Obama: "People of America: Today I have been given a brand new, never before allowed, and powerful tool in the fight against terrorism to keep you all safe. This completely new thing is an unbelievably big step for my administration, and for the, change, that you all elected me to achieve"
*Aide whispers something in Obama's ear*
Obama: "What? The American people don't like this thing? Errr, People of America...It's all George W Bush's fault! This was like this when I got here! It's all on him! I didn't even know anything about this thing, I came along and it was sitting just like that! I didn't touch nothin', man! I don't even know what this thing is! I never asked for this power, I hate this power! It's old! We're all about change here, not keeping the old! Blame W!"
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