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You dingbats... The fundamentals of this policy have already existed since1950! It's called the Defense Production Act - Google it. Truman used it during the Korean War to ensure that military production materials were available, What did you guys think, that this nation doesn't have a full set of martial law-based contingency plans set up in case **** hits the fan one day? Obama's EO is just amending it to create new bio-fuel initiatives betwen the armed forces and DOA / DOE.
So again: the President has already had the right under certain circumstances to command civilian markets and resources for emergency defense since 1950, and Obama did not just create some new precedent to collectivize the farms and take away your private property.
You dingbats... The fundamentals of this policy have already existed since1950! It's called the Defense Production Act - Google it. Truman used it during the Korean War to ensure that military production materials were available, What did you guys think, that this nation doesn't have a full set of martial law-based contingency plans set up in case **** hits the fan one day? Obama's EO is just amending it to create new bio-fuel initiatives betwen the armed forces and DOA / DOE.
So again: the President has already had the right under certain circumstances to command civilian markets and resources for emergency defense since 1950, and Obama did not just create some new precedent to collectivize the farms and take away your private property.
When you say "amending" let's just say extending power, OK?
Secondly, what did Truman do? I will give you a hint....it killed hundreds of thousands of Japanese people...
What event was this during?? World War II
What was born out of World War II?? The Military-Industrial Complex
Soooo.....a Martial Law (aka Police State...aka take away your rights.... aka do whatever we please) contingency was instated AFTER we put the wheels in motion to f*** with EVERYBODY in the world.
Obama brought that closer to reality.... You cannot argue this.
When you say "amending" let's just say extending power, OK?
Secondly, what did Truman do? I will give you a hint....it killed hundreds of thousands of Japanese people...
What event was this during?? World War II
What was born out of World War II?? The Military-Industrial Complex
Soooo.....a Martial Law (aka Police State...aka take away your rights.... aka do whatever we please) contingency was instated AFTER we put the wheels in motion to f*** with EVERYBODY in the world.
Obama brought that closer to reality.... You cannot argue this.
Sure you can. The occurrence and timing of martial law will depend on international events that we can't control - the next terrorist who detonates a nuclear bomb in Manhattan, the start of WWIII, an ICBM attack from North Korea, a massive disaster, etc. That's what that law is for. If it had occurred under Ronald Reagan, he would have used it. If it happens to occur under Obama, he will use it. And if it happens under whoever assumes the Presidency after Obama, then he or she will use it. Simple as that.
The point is that this contingent reality will never change, and it has nothing to do with Obama. Democrat, Republican, whatever else - it matters not. When **** really hits the fan - and I mean like millions dead, cities off the map, life as we know it disrupted - you will see basically the same freedom-limiting policies enacted regardless of who is in office. You're kidding yourself if you think this isn't true.
Sure you can. The occurrence and timing of martial law will depend on international events that we can't control - the next terrorist who detonates a nuclear bomb in Manhattan, the start of WWIII, an ICBM attack from North Korea, a massive disaster, etc. That's what that law is for.
What brings these events on????
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If it had occurred under Ronald Reagan, he would have used it. If it happens to occur under Obama, he will use it. And if it happens under whoever assumes the Presidency after Obama, then he or she will use it. Simple as that. The point is that this contingent reality will never change, and it has nothing to do with Obama.
Again, what will lead to these events??
I agree with almost everything you said..Obama didn't create this...BUT one thing is certain.. he is definitely not trying to end this...So yes, it has everything to do with Obama.. He is a proponent of the foreign policy we've always carried out.
I agree with almost everything you said..Obama didn't create this...BUT one thing is certain.. he is definitely not trying to end this...So yes, it has everything to do with Obama.. He is a proponent of the foreign policy we've always carried out.
Most likely a devastating attack from some foreign entity due to a confluence of factors, many of which will be beyond the US President's direct control. That's usually the nature of global war. What caused Hitler to rise to power and start trying to basically take over the whole world? That's a complicated question.
By the way, no one can really "end this." You can take some steps to reduce the risk, but even so, sometimes **** happens. We're human, and you can't pacify everyone all the time. So logic suggests that every developed nation will have some sort of a contingency policy like this. It's unfortunate, but that's how it is.
Most likely a devastating attack from some foreign entity due to a confluence of factors, many of which will be beyond the US President's direct control. That's usually the nature of global war. What caused Hitler to rise to power and start trying to basically take over the whole world? That's a complicated question.
By the way, no one can really "end this." You can take some steps to reduce the risk, but even so, sometimes **** happens. We're human, and you can't pacify everyone all the time. So logic suggests that every developed nation will have some sort of a contingency policy like this. It's unfortunate, but that's how it is.
This just proves my point. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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You're right...he/she didn't mean to say Communism... He meant to say Totalitarianism
If they meant to say it, then they would have said. Clearly, that just tried their best to use a loaded term and make a statement loaded to help sell their lack of a point, but yeah I totally agree.
Sure you can. The occurrence and timing of martial law will depend on international events that we can't control - the next terrorist who detonates a nuclear bomb in Manhattan, the start of WWIII, an ICBM attack from North Korea, a massive disaster, etc. That's what that law is for. If it had occurred under Ronald Reagan, he would have used it. If it happens to occur under Obama, he will use it. And if it happens under whoever assumes the Presidency after Obama, then he or she will use it. Simple as that.
The point is that this contingent reality will never change, and it has nothing to do with Obama. Democrat, Republican, whatever else - it matters not. When **** really hits the fan - and I mean like millions dead, cities off the map, life as we know it disrupted - you will see basically the same freedom-limiting policies enacted regardless of who is in office. You're kidding yourself if you think this isn't true.
Nothing Obama ever does when it comes to usurping more executive power is original. He just continues the tyrannical policies of his predecessors and just adds a cherry on top. The President is not supposed to have this kind of tremendous power. If he was supposed to, it would have been clearly mentioned in the Constitution, the same Constitution he swore to uphold when he took his oath of office. This is a case of where the President grabs power unconstitutionally and have his minions believe that he, in his infinite mercifulness, will never exercise that power.
Now that a President have the capability to turn this country into a full-fledged police state at the snap of his fingers, how do we retain our liberties? Oh yeah, just go down on our knees and pray that he never does. No, no, no...power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. If a past President has done a wrong, a future President, if he values liberty, should correct that wrong, not double down on it.
Two wrongs does NOT make a right.
Can someone explain to me how Obama is PROGRESSIVE again? This is fascism.
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