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Obama was brought up by a white woman with limited interaction with other blacks. The people around him treated him like he was black eventhough he had no idea what is was to be black in America, why would'nt he be confused.
Truthfully I would expect you to think that you understand what he is going through. I really doubt it though since he hates how he has been treated by both groups and you are focused on your disdain for American blacks
How is anything you said different than what the OP has been saying?
How is anything you said different than what the OP has been saying?
I, like many other blacks in this country (Bill Cosby included) have always had a probelm with the fringe aspects of our community and those who participates and glorifies the negativity. This is common knowledge, but to have someone come on a social media and defame all of us for the actions of a few is intolerable. There lies the difference, I as well as the other blacks on this forum are not going to throw a group of people that we have never met under a bus just because of a few ignorant family members and a screwed up neighborhood
I have now officially vowed to never again call myself Black or African American (God, I hate that term) again. I could say I'm Black and European, or colored (non-white) but I am through saying I'm black and now realize I should never have identified as black.
I'm half Black American, half Italian...okay, my black father was 1/4 Cherokee and 1/8th English, but he's pretty dark. My mother was as Italian as Al Capone. My grand parents were fresh off the boat Italian, from Catania, in Sicily. We had the traditional seven fishes every Christmas and I was fed Italian wine when I was like twelve and my grandfather would play opera records while he worked around his house and I was raised Catholic. My father was black, and I spent a lot of time with my black family too.
Anyway, I was at a bar with some folks the other day and I mentioned that I always wanted to learn Italian, which I never picked up from my relatives and I said I always wanted to know my family's mother tongue. Well, a black guy overheard and gave me the look of death, but didn't say anything. I asked him what his problem was and the SAME F^^^^ fight that I've had numerous times with black people broke out. He said, and I quote, "n^^^^a, you know you ain't no damn Italian! What, you gotta problem being black?"
My chums at the bar were quite loud in their rebuttals, and the outnumbered black fellow made that hiss sound and walked away.
I've gotten this SO DAMN MUCH. Black folks, insisting I call myself black exclusively and ignore the dominate part of my DNA (My mother was all Italian, my father was not all black, hence, genetically, I'm mostly Italian) They give me this reaction of contempt and anger if I so much as acknowledge my other side.
And then, they even seem to get mad at me for the crime of being alive. Some pure black Americans look at me with hatred when they hear me talk. It's like they're afraid I'm going to pollute their Afro-Aryan gene pool, being this brown skinned fellow who has the nerve to speak proper English.
And spare me...SPARE ME that "one drop rule" crap. That was the law once upon a time, yes...but it was also against the law for anyone with black blood to learn to read, does that mean I should never go back to school? How much should I care about what some long dead bigot thinks?
Or, they say "if this was back in the day, you would be enslaved by the white man." Yes...and if I was in Haiti right after the revolution, the blacks would have gladly lopped my head off. If I was in South Africa RIGHT NOW I would be treated like dirt by the black majority who discriminate against the mixed-race coloureds. So, I shouldn't identify with a group that wants to oppress me...unless that group is the blacks, then it's okay if I identify with the oppressor.
And I don't identify as only white either, but the more I think about it...why should I be ashamed for having white blood? If I called myself black exclusively, as many mulattoes do, wouldn't being ashamed being exactly what I'm doing? I mean, if a mixed person said "I'm white" despite being light brown, people would think they're ashamed of having black blood. But, if they say "I'm black," no one thinks it's because they're ashamed of having white blood.
And the funniest part is, I've met so many people from Italy, and none of them had a problem with me being black and Italian. I say I want to learn Italian, and they think I mean right then and there and they try to teach me some words. They never seem to have any problem with a mixed race Italian...but "my brothers?" The minute they find out I am mixed and am not afraid to admit it they have problems.
As none-PC as it may be to say, in my lifetime I have found that blacks are twice as racist as whites when it comes to this. I got beaten up as a kid by the pure blacks who hated me for having lighter skin and clearly Italian features (strong cheek bones, dark under my eyes, shorter statue etc)
It was never a member of the KKK or a skinhead who chased me around calling me the "N word" and trying to kick my butt, it was the black kids who did just that. Plus, I'm not culturally ghetto, so it was even worse...
...look at it this way: a white kid wearing a T-shirt of a heavy metal band walks past some black ghetto kids. They wouldn't do anything...but a mulatto kid in a T-shirt for a heavy metal band walks past the same black thugs, and they are going to attack him for listening to "white music." I know because I WAS that mulatto kid.
I mean, is a white guy betraying his race if he prefers rap to blue grass music? No, and hardly no white people would give him any problems. But if a person of black origin, part or full, hates rap and likes heavy metal and rock? All of a sudden he's "acting white" and he's a traitor.
First of all, listening to Jimmy Hendrix as opposed to Kenya West is hardly "acting white" and second, I am half white! So I should never listen to music or experience the culture of the other side of me? (again, I should be ashamed of having white blood, and no one has a problem with that)
And yes, I hate rap...if no one is singing, playing an instrument, or composing, IT ISN'T MUSIC! I would much rather listen to rock, metal, electronic music or classical. But because that is not "orthodox Negroid thought" and it is bad enough that I am breathing while mixed and not a pure Afro-Aryan, I am a target for so many racist blacks.
I have nothing against black people, or my black blood. But, if I call myself black, I would be betraying my other half and embracing a people who so often have issues with my very existence. Hence, I am half-black, and will never call myself black again...
...and for the record, Obama isn't black either. But he lived a sheltered upperclass lifestyle in Hawaii and didn't go through what I went through on the East Coast, so he's a different story. He's also a failure of a president who should be a one term wonder...but that's another thing blacks would attack me for saying out loud.
Hey, chin up you should be proud to be a caucanegrindialian! I bet your beautiful!
OP, stay away from ignorant Blacks! This guy at the bar obviously has a huge inferiority complex and feels threatened by you.
African Americans like Charlie Pride, one of the best country singers in history, should be the kind of people Blacks would want to emulate, not Lil Wayne!
There is a Black cowboy from Texas, his name is Fred something, he is the best rodeo calf roper in the world, 7 times world champion, i saw an interview with him, great guy!
I really can't believe no one on here gets what the poster is saying. I don't totally agree with all his comments, but I know first hand EXACTLY what he is talking about. My best friend for many years, and mother of my god daughter, is half black and half Puerto Rican. She was born in a bad section of Harlem to an alcoholic father and a frazzled, distant mother. They cleaned up their acts, went to college in their 30's and had good jobs by their 40's. They moved into a much nicer (and also mix-raced) neighborhood so my friend and her siblings could go to a highly respected school. My friend spent her teens surrounded by people of all colors and was taught by her parents (both half black and half Puerto Rican themselves) to be proud of both her black and Latina heritage. My friend, when she first moved Buffalo and we started hanging out, largely spoke casual English - nothing too uppity or proper, unless the occasion called for it, with urban slang peppered in, just like it is in mine after years of living in the inner-city. She was CONSTANTLY ridiculed by other black people as "not black enough" because a) she identified as mix-raced, instead of strictly black even though she is brown-skinned, b) she was "trying to be white" because she didn't act/speak in a stereotypically ghetto manner and liked some rock/pop music (in addition to hip hop, r & b and several Latin styles) and c) she hung out with me a lot, a white girl (she also had many black, Latino, and mixed friends). She was criticized by her black friends if she dated a white or Latino man, even though she had also dated plenty of black men. Eventually my friend gave up on being herself and started trying to be a stereotype - she started to hang with exclusively black people (the more ghetto the better) and started to speak in 80% Ebonics on all occasions. She now has almost no good friends (ghetto b*****s turn on each other at the drop of a hat, regardless of what race), can't hold down a job because her stereotypically ghetto behavior gets her fired and can't “find” a decent man because she only dates super-thug men. This is NOT about race - I'm not stating black people are naturally any certain way; that's as ridiculous as saying that because I'm part Irish I p*ss green. It's about adhering to a stereotype of a race - many black people are educated, articulate, awesome folks who hold good jobs and have friends of many different colors. However the stereotype of what a black person should be, even largely to black people in my experience in Buffalo, is a ghetto thug who can't speak proper English (even when it's necessary at a job interview), has to live in a mostly black area, and can't associate with anyone of another race, even if they themselves are mixed. I get lots of “oh we can be friends and work but not outside of work because my black friends wouldn’t like it.” It's f***ed. It's sad that people on here can't see this at all, and only see what the poster is saying as "black bashing." If you opened your eyes you would see black on black, black on mixed and black on non-black racism is pervasive, just like white, Latino, Asian, etc racism. People should be free to like who and what they want regardless of color, and still appreciate their racial heritage if they are connected to it (I say IF because some people are so many different ethnicities they have no strict ethnic tradition or association with a certain heritage, like myself who is 6 different ethnicities). It’s so silly to limit yourself in behaviors, hobbies, friends and love over something like skin color, just as it would be over gender, religion, etc. This is one more way our society is structured to keep common people from uniting against greater inequalities, like class issues and social justice. Our media and government keep us too busy hating each other to worry about what they are doing.
I really can't believe no one on here gets what the poster is saying. I don't totally agree with all his comments, but I know first hand EXACTLY what he is talking about. My best friend for many years, and mother of my god daughter, is half black and half Puerto Rican. She was born in a bad section of Harlem to an alcoholic father and a frazzled, distant mother. They cleaned up their acts, went to college in their 30's and had good jobs by their 40's. They moved into a much nicer (and also mix-raced) neighborhood so my friend and her siblings could go to a highly respected school. My friend spent her teens surrounded by people of all colors and was taught by her parents (both half black and half Puerto Rican themselves) to be proud of both her black and Latina heritage. My friend, when she first moved Buffalo and we started hanging out, largely spoke casual English - nothing too uppity or proper, unless the occasion called for it, with urban slang peppered in, just like it is in mine after years of living in the inner-city. She was CONSTANTLY ridiculed by other black people as "not black enough" because a) she identified as mix-raced, instead of strictly black even though she is brown-skinned, b) she was "trying to be white" because she didn't act/speak in a stereotypically ghetto manner and liked some rock/pop music (in addition to hip hop, r & b and several Latin styles) and c) she hung out with me a lot, a white girl (she also had many black, Latino, and mixed friends). She was criticized by her black friends if she dated a white or Latino man, even though she had also dated plenty of black men. Eventually my friend gave up on being herself and started trying to be a stereotype - she started to hang with exclusively black people (the more ghetto the better) and started to speak in 80% Ebonics on all occasions. She now has almost no good friends (ghetto b*****s turn on each other at the drop of a hat, regardless of what race), can't hold down a job because her stereotypically ghetto behavior gets her fired and can't “find” a decent man because she only dates super-thug men. This is NOT about race - I'm not stating black people are naturally any certain way; that's as ridiculous as saying that because I'm part Irish I p*ss green. It's about adhering to a stereotype of a race - many black people are educated, articulate, awesome folks who hold good jobs and have friends of many different colors. However the stereotype of what a black person should be, even largely to black people in my experience in Buffalo, is a ghetto thug who can't speak proper English (even when it's necessary at a job interview), has to live in a mostly black area, and can't associate with anyone of another race, even if they themselves are mixed. I get lots of “oh we can be friends and work but not outside of work because my black friends wouldn’t like it.” It's f***ed. It's sad that people on here can't see this at all, and only see what the poster is saying as "black bashing." If you opened your eyes you would see black on black, black on mixed and black on non-black racism is pervasive, just like white, Latino, Asian, etc racism. People should be free to like who and what they want regardless of color, and still appreciate their racial heritage if they are connected to it (I say IF because some people are so many different ethnicities they have no strict ethnic tradition or association with a certain heritage, like myself who is 6 different ethnicities). It’s so silly to limit yourself in behaviors, hobbies, friends and love over something like skin color, just as it would be over gender, religion, etc. This is one more way our society is structured to keep common people from uniting against greater inequalities, like class issues and social justice. Our media and government keep us too busy hating each other to worry about what they are doing.
Paragraph's please? And by the way, if they are so destructive why is she concerned with what regressive people have to say? I could careless what most blacks or whites think of me, especially if they are backward thinking.
i remmbr an ex-co-worker telling me the most racist ppl on earth r blacks. i kid u not. i was shocked something like that would come out of her mouth; i was speechless. she was a light-skinned black woman so i am guessing that fact (the light skin) had something to do with it! not sure if she was quasi-joking or what. it was a weird thing to hear
I have now officially vowed to never again call myself Black or African American (God, I hate that term) again. I could say I'm Black and European, or colored (non-white) but I am through saying I'm black and now realize I should never have identified as black.
I'm half Black American, half Italian...okay, my black father was 1/4 Cherokee and 1/8th English, but he's pretty dark. My mother was as Italian as Al Capone. My grand parents were fresh off the boat Italian, from Catania, in Sicily. We had the traditional seven fishes every Christmas and I was fed Italian wine when I was like twelve and my grandfather would play opera records while he worked around his house and I was raised Catholic. My father was black, and I spent a lot of time with my black family too.
Anyway, I was at a bar with some folks the other day and I mentioned that I always wanted to learn Italian, which I never picked up from my relatives and I said I always wanted to know my family's mother tongue. Well, a black guy overheard and gave me the look of death, but didn't say anything. I asked him what his problem was and the SAME F^^^^ fight that I've had numerous times with black people broke out. He said, and I quote, "n^^^^a, you know you ain't no damn Italian! What, you gotta problem being black?"
My chums at the bar were quite loud in their rebuttals, and the outnumbered black fellow made that hiss sound and walked away.
I've gotten this SO DAMN MUCH. Black folks, insisting I call myself black exclusively and ignore the dominate part of my DNA (My mother was all Italian, my father was not all black, hence, genetically, I'm mostly Italian) They give me this reaction of contempt and anger if I so much as acknowledge my other side.
And then, they even seem to get mad at me for the crime of being alive. Some pure black Americans look at me with hatred when they hear me talk. It's like they're afraid I'm going to pollute their Afro-Aryan gene pool, being this brown skinned fellow who has the nerve to speak proper English.
And spare me...SPARE ME that "one drop rule" crap. That was the law once upon a time, yes...but it was also against the law for anyone with black blood to learn to read, does that mean I should never go back to school? How much should I care about what some long dead bigot thinks?
Or, they say "if this was back in the day, you would be enslaved by the white man." Yes...and if I was in Haiti right after the revolution, the blacks would have gladly lopped my head off. If I was in South Africa RIGHT NOW I would be treated like dirt by the black majority who discriminate against the mixed-race coloureds. So, I shouldn't identify with a group that wants to oppress me...unless that group is the blacks, then it's okay if I identify with the oppressor.
And I don't identify as only white either, but the more I think about it...why should I be ashamed for having white blood? If I called myself black exclusively, as many mulattoes do, wouldn't being ashamed being exactly what I'm doing? I mean, if a mixed person said "I'm white" despite being light brown, people would think they're ashamed of having black blood. But, if they say "I'm black," no one thinks it's because they're ashamed of having white blood.
And the funniest part is, I've met so many people from Italy, and none of them had a problem with me being black and Italian. I say I want to learn Italian, and they think I mean right then and there and they try to teach me some words. They never seem to have any problem with a mixed race Italian...but "my brothers?" The minute they find out I am mixed and am not afraid to admit it they have problems.
As none-PC as it may be to say, in my lifetime I have found that blacks are twice as racist as whites when it comes to this. I got beaten up as a kid by the pure blacks who hated me for having lighter skin and clearly Italian features (strong cheek bones, dark under my eyes, shorter statue etc)
It was never a member of the KKK or a skinhead who chased me around calling me the "N word" and trying to kick my butt, it was the black kids who did just that. Plus, I'm not culturally ghetto, so it was even worse...
...look at it this way: a white kid wearing a T-shirt of a heavy metal band walks past some black ghetto kids. They wouldn't do anything...but a mulatto kid in a T-shirt for a heavy metal band walks past the same black thugs, and they are going to attack him for listening to "white music." I know because I WAS that mulatto kid.
I mean, is a white guy betraying his race if he prefers rap to blue grass music? No, and hardly no white people would give him any problems. But if a person of black origin, part or full, hates rap and likes heavy metal and rock? All of a sudden he's "acting white" and he's a traitor.
First of all, listening to Jimmy Hendrix as opposed to Kenya West is hardly "acting white" and second, I am half white! So I should never listen to music or experience the culture of the other side of me? (again, I should be ashamed of having white blood, and no one has a problem with that)
And yes, I hate rap...if no one is singing, playing an instrument, or composing, IT ISN'T MUSIC! I would much rather listen to rock, metal, electronic music or classical. But because that is not "orthodox Negroid thought" and it is bad enough that I am breathing while mixed and not a pure Afro-Aryan, I am a target for so many racist blacks.
I have nothing against black people, or my black blood. But, if I call myself black, I would be betraying my other half and embracing a people who so often have issues with my very existence. Hence, I am half-black, and will never call myself black again...
...and for the record, Obama isn't black either. But he lived a sheltered upperclass lifestyle in Hawaii and didn't go through what I went through on the East Coast, so he's a different story. He's also a failure of a president who should be a one term wonder...but that's another thing blacks would attack me for saying out loud.
You sound confused dude. There is affordable therapy out there if you know where to look.
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