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Old 06-01-2012, 04:33 PM
 
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Originally Posted by carolac View Post

I wonder if he's going to show up in 48 hours.
That's an interesting thought! Certainly FDLE knows where he is, or the State Attorney???

 
Old 06-01-2012, 04:39 PM
 
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Was he charged with a crime??
Innocent people don't "flee" but now people are saying he should have left the country. You can't have it both ways. Leaving the country is not the same as fleeing. I'll have to go back to read the post to which I responded, but I am quite certain the word was "flee" not leave. Of course he could have left the country, but how would he survive? Sending money to a fugitive is illegal, isn't it? It's not as if you can just pack up and leave the U.S. and take up residence elsewhere.
 
Old 06-01-2012, 04:40 PM
 
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In gz's position, I'd have been gone in a nanosecond. I'd figure an arrest and conviction were inevitable.

What law would he have broken by splitting before his arrest.
That would have been the smart thing to do. And that second passport surely seems to indicate that he thought about it.

He could have been living in Peru or somewhere, looking over his shoulder, no doubt, but he would have been looking over his shoulder here whether he was convicted or not.
 
Old 06-01-2012, 04:42 PM
 
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Innocent people don't "flee" but now people are saying he should have left the country. You can't have it both ways. Leaving the country is not the same as fleeing. I'll have to go back to read the post to which I responded, but I am quite certain the word was "flee" not leave.
I wasn't asking if he was innocent....

I was asking...was Zimmerman charged with a crime??
 
Old 06-01-2012, 04:47 PM
 
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That would have been the smart thing to do. And that second passport surely seems to indicate that he thought about it.

He could have been living in Peru or somewhere, looking over his shoulder, no doubt, but he would have been looking over his shoulder here whether he was convicted or not.
How would he survive? Also, what about the Joran van der Sloot extradition? I thought Peru said they would extradite him to the U.S. for the murder of Natalee Holloway as long as he was returned to Peru to complete his sentence for his other crime. Yes? No?

Edit: Seriously, I've spent many hours doing research on living in other countries. It's not that easy to disappear unless you have a lot of money. (no, I wasn't trying to disappear. just thinking about my retirement)

I agree that having a 2nd passport sure looks suspicious to me. That might be one reason he didn't want to report the money at the bond hearing if he thought about leaving.
 
Old 06-01-2012, 04:50 PM
 
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How would he survive? Also, what about the Joran van der Sloot extradition? I thought Peru said they would extradite him to the U.S. for the murder of Natalee Holloway as long as he was returned to Peru to complete his sentence for his other crime. Yes? No?
$135k goes a long way in South America, and people would probably still be donating to him for a while
 
Old 06-01-2012, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Yes, the HEART of Zimmerman's self defense claim will be his credibility, his state of mind at the time the shooting took place. And that puts his credibility at issue.

As for "lying".....have you read the Judge's words when he ruled? He didn't say "misunderstanding."

There are also witnesses who CONTRADICT Zimmerman's statement as well as witnesses who contradict each other. I don't know what you are thinking of in terms of physical evidence that absolutely proves Zimmerman's position.

Why did zimmerman file an affirmative defense in this case, if just the little bit of evidence the public knows makes it so clear this is a slam dunk for him?

Zimmerman's attorney is not as sure as you are. He's stated that he has at least 50 witnesses he plans to depose. That's means that those witnesses are basically state witnesses. The defense would not depose their own witnesses. In the court file, discovery indicates that the state has 22 witnesses whose names are not being released, in addition to many more witnesses for the state who are named!

Btw, there is a M.E. investigator and a report by that person has been filed, along with crime scene photos. Have you seen any of that info?
BS. The witnesses the state have contradicted themselves many times over. One said she was guided by the news. The state has nothing, the revocation of bail means nothing. So Zimmerman was vague about the money in his Paypal account.

The prosecution has to prove that Zimmerman acted with malice in killing Martin how does this change anything. Can the prosecution prove Zimmerman started the fight? They've thus far admitted they can't
 
Old 06-01-2012, 04:51 PM
 
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$135k goes a long way in South America, and people would probably still be donating to him for a while
He could have left a long time ago. Frankly I said as much during the run up to the arrest. He was free to leave. He should have left the minute Al Sharpton started ginning up the case.
 
Old 06-01-2012, 04:53 PM
 
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If convicted, Zimmerman will not be allowed to profit from the crime. That's a law in Florida.
Operative words "if convicted". Not a likely scenario.
 
Old 06-01-2012, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Benjamin Crump, the lawyer for the Martin family, told The Daily Beast, “In our view this is the most important ruling in the case. It makes everyone focus on George Zimmerman’s credibility, and that is the crux of the matter. The reason his credibility is so important is that it is his version that is the only one that says Trayvon Martin attacked him.”
More BS. Who is going solely by what Zimmerman says? He has the injuries, autopsy of Trayvon shows bruised knuckles and no marks on him. There is simply no independent proof Zimmerman touched him.

I don't know Zimmerman and his wife were trying to be cute with the judge now, if he wanted to leave he should have left when he had the chance.
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