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No, not all of us are speculating, only yourself in this case as to what was meant by "armed". Some of us actually read the linked article and its related articles; obviously, you have not.
But personwhoisaperson is right. Any crime you commit, it doesn't matter what you're armed with -- it could be a knife or a gun or other weapon -- you're still armed.
If I just happen to be holding a knife I always hold while I mug some woman and take her person, I'm armed and it doesn't matter if I say I always carry a knife. Same if I always carry a gun but then decide to commit some crime - it's going to be considered to be a crime with a weapon involved.
Soon, America will become so ridden with gun violence that even the most rabid pro-gun supporter will be forced to realize that GUNS KILL PEOPLE.
The statistics are insane and growing daily. Gun death and injury statistics are skyrocketing and soon EVERYONE in the US will know someone who has been injured, killed, or traumatized due to a crazy with a (legal) arsenal.
It is the American disease, and the worse thing is, you guys don't even know you're sick.
PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE!!!!! IT TAKES SOMEONE BEHIND THE GUN TO SHOOT IT!!!!!! ANYONE CAN KILL ANYONE WITH ANYTHING!!!!!!
In your country it is okay to trust your government enough to turn over your weapons to it.
In my country, left, right, or center, you cannot trust the government with a f***ing paper clip. Americans are fundamentally different because our country was founded on principals of personal freedom and we should have every right as American citizens to hold our government accountable and to be able to protect our lives our fortunes and our property.
If you don't live here, or have never visited, and you read statistics on gun violence please understand that unless you go to the NRA website and look at the true statistics, the numbers are sequed. They put together murder and accidents, they don't separate them.
Although I'm sure your country is great, we have the 2nd Amendment. The numbers of people, of all political affiliation, agreeing with that Amendment are on the rise.
You can't take our guns away no matter how much you want to.
Whether you believe in God or not, we still have fight or flight. That right is given to us by God, or by nature depending on what you believe in.
Good grief folks, there is more to this story, than was presented in the OP.
For starters, the guys who fired the shots have CRIMINAL records themselves, namely cocaine trafficking, property theft and use of a firearm during the commission of a felony. Why did these guys have firearms?
Second, they were on an island accessible only by boat. How far were the teenagers going to go?
Look at the map gravine island alabama - Google Maps
Third, the guys doing the shooting claim they fired "warning shots" into the air, yet one of those shots ended up in the back of the skull of the girl. I don't buy that for a millisecond.
Forth, since when is shooting someone in the back while that person is running away "self defense"?
While I don't believe she "deserved" to get shot, my sympathy is muted by the belief that it was an easily foreseeable potential consequence of committing an act of burglary in remote rural Alabama at 4:00 a.m.
The standard of "appropriate and proportional response" is hard to apply in a situation where somebody is invading somebody else's property in the middle of the night. Split second judgements about the intentions of the invader have to be made with little sensory information to help.. Its hard to question someone's judgement who claims to feel threatened. In this case I am inclined to lean towards those who were protecting the property since they at least have a plausible argument that they were acting in good faith. There's no such argument for the 4 teens.
Furthermore, while you can argue that the shooters acted rashly, it doesn't seem to me like they were some sort of cold-blooded murders who approached the situation with the attitude "alright, here's our chance to kill someone!" The weapons they were carrying tell me that. A .177 is barely enough to kill a rabbit, and a .22 rates pretty low on the human lethality scale. These are weapons carried by light game hunters and those seeking protection-by-deterrence, not blood thirsty vigilantes.
Last edited by madpaddy; 04-21-2012 at 05:46 PM..
Reason: "rule" replaced by "standard"
Good grief folks, there is more to this story, than was presented in the OP.
For starters, the guys who fired the shots have CRIMINAL records themselves, namely cocaine trafficking, property theft and use of a firearm during the commission of a felony. Why did these guys have firearms?
Second, they were on an island accessible only by boat. How far were the teenagers going to go?
Look at the map gravine island alabama - Google Maps
Third, the guys doing the shooting claim they fired "warning shots" into the air, yet one of those shots ended up in the back of the skull of the girl. I don't buy that for a millisecond.
Forth, since when is shooting someone in the back while that person is running away "self defense"?
For the sake of disclosure, Summer Moody was shot above the left ear with the bullet exiting above the right ear. So apparently not in the back. Not that that should make a difference.
Another criminal gets killed (hopefully) and the Left Wingers are outraged. She was 17, what is the homeowner supposed to check the ID before defending himself?
If you moonbat left-wingers spent half of your angst for criminal rights on real issues, the world would be a better place.
That does make it sound like a drug deal gone bad. Or some drug addicts deciding to rob their drug dealers of some of that cocaine at 4:00 am.
Exactly.
Drug dealers rip off drug addicts and drug addicts try to rip off drug dealers.
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