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I don't think it needs to be overturned. It needs to be amended.
People should be allowed to opt out for any reason. If you are happy with your current insurance, you can opt out. If you think this whole thing reeks of Communism, you can opt out. If you think you are invincible, you can opt out.
However, if you opt out, your name is put in a national database that is accessible by any healthcare professional. If you are on that list and require medical care, you need to either show that you have your own insurance, or you must pre-pay and show proof that you have sufficient funds to pay for treatment. If you have neither and still opted out, you are out of luck and must depend on the charity and compassion of your fellow citizens. There should be no government program to ensure basic treatment for you.
That way, everybody gets what they want. No more free loaders. No forced insurance.
Standard question..
Will you let the unwashed die openly in the driveway to the emergency ward?
A 12year old kid turning blue in the driveway...a young women bleeding out in the driveway. A small old lady simply breathing slower and slower in the driveway.
Who would you have pick them up? The coroner? And who pays him?
A true libertarian would have the bodies picked up and bill the estates collectively...
Will you let the unwashed die openly in the driveway to the emergency ward?
A 12year old kid turning blue in the driveway...a young women bleeding out in the driveway. A small old lady simply breathing slower and slower in the driveway.
Who would you have pick them up? The coroner? And who pays him?
A true libertarian would have the bodies picked up and bill the estates collectively...
Of course we wont. At least for the forseeable future.
Will you let the unwashed die openly in the driveway to the emergency ward?
A 12year old kid turning blue in the driveway...a young women bleeding out in the driveway. A small old lady simply breathing slower and slower in the driveway.
Who would you have pick them up? The coroner? And who pays him?
A true libertarian would have the bodies picked up and bill the estates collectively...
That is not happening today. What makes you think this way ?
I don't think it needs to be overturned. It needs to be amended.
People should be allowed to opt out for any reason. If you are happy with your current insurance, you can opt out. If you think this whole thing reeks of Communism, you can opt out. If you think you are invincible, you can opt out.
However, if you opt out, your name is put in a national database that is accessible by any healthcare professional. If you are on that list and require medical care, you need to either show that you have your own insurance, or you must pre-pay and show proof that you have sufficient funds to pay for treatment. If you have neither and still opted out, you are out of luck and must depend on the charity and compassion of your fellow citizens. There should be no government program to ensure basic treatment for you.
That way, everybody gets what they want. No more free loaders. No forced insurance.
That idea doesn't work. Your idea is basically the status quo, but somehow magically you think that hospitals will deny care. THey can't. They can't do that now even if they wanted to do so. The cost of the lawsuits is less than the care.
Sorry,your idea doesn't work.
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Remember, O-care is just another way to impose a TAX in the midst of a recession, not unlike FICA was a new tax in the midst of the Depression.
The tax piece of it is pretty minor. What you call Obamacare, by the way, was an idea created and pushed by Republicans, not Democrats.
I'll take the new system as it stops freeloaders from relying on the money I pay.
What specific areas do "most people" want overturned?
Ammon Simon says it best:
More than two-thirds of Americans want to see Obamacare struck down. 68 percent of those polled want to see the Court strike down at least part of Obamacare, including 41 percent who think the Court should overturn the entire law. Interestingly, there is overwhelming public support to overturn the law, despite the fact that 45 percent of those polled approve of the mandate as a matter of policy. Encouraging news for those of us who believe that the Constitution ought to trump policy preferences.
A plurality of Democrats continue to oppose some part of the law. A full 48 percent of Democrats want the Court to strike down at least the mandate, compared with only 42 percent of Democrats who want the Court to keep the entire law. Independents show even less support for the law, as 72 percent of them want to see at least the Court strike down the individual mandate. For only 42 percent of Democrats to support the Obama administration’s position in Court is quite remarkable, and shows just how badly the Obama administration bungled the issue. -end
The progressives look at these figures, and somehow believe that if people want the mandate struck down they must somehow be supporters. They add the people who want Obamacare with the people who want the mandate struck, and come up with 56% of people wanting Obamacare.
This is the same math used to say they've cut spending, while running the debt up an additional $6T. This is the same logic that allows them to pass bills nobody wants, believing everybody wants it. They are holding our noses as they force their medicine down our throats (among other things.)
Our problems are because of Bush, err; Greece, err; Spain... hell spin the wheel, anyone but the Dems will do.
The whole thing, because of the foul process that the dems used to sign it into law.
For one thing, it turns the HHS Sec. into a unaccountable tyrant, who can force us to do anything her little heart desires.
think of it anyone that approves of this bill. right now the democrats are in office and can get their way with concern to it. what about next year or 10 years down the road when a republican is in charge. do you really want someone who is against everything you believe in to actually be in charge of your healthcare?
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