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Old 06-19-2012, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Being paranoid and trigger-happy.
Being "paranoid" is not a crime - and the homeowners certainly weren't "trigger happy" - they gave the lady plenty of warning which she did not heed.

Sorry if you disagree - but Colorado law protects their actions.
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Old 06-19-2012, 07:24 PM
 
Location: White House, TN
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Being "paranoid" is not a crime - and the homeowners certainly weren't "trigger happy" - they gave the lady plenty of warning which she did not heed.

Sorry if you disagree - but Colorado law protects their actions.
Well it was pretty clear she has a 99.9% chance she didn't pose a deadly threat.
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:48 PM
 
Location: playing in the colorful Colorado dirt
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She wasn't posing a deadly threat. I'd rather a few people that made a mistake and fired on an unarmed intruder go to prison than people get away with aggravated assault and murder.
The homeowner did everything right, with the exception of not locking his door. As a matter of fact, he went above and beyond. He warned her 3 times that he was armed and told her to get out. She didn't comply and he pulled the trigger as she approached him and his wife in their bedroom.

I asked a local deputy if under Colorado's Make My Day law a homeowner is required to warn an intruder that they are armed. His answer was an emphatic NO.

The homeowner gave her a chance to leave, she didn't take it. That's her fault.
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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Those drunken girls cause such a threat. When they group up they are really dangerous. If someone that owns a gun can't distinguish a threat perhaps they shouldn't own a gun.

She did something stupid, do we really need to put her in jail for it? what a waste of time. People have lost all common sense. Want to see what happened to America... We have taken too many stupid pills!
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:13 PM
 
Location: playing in the colorful Colorado dirt
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Well it was pretty clear she has a 99.9% chance she didn't pose a deadly threat.
How was the homeowner supposed to know that?

It was 3-3:30 am, darkened house and the poor guy was awakened from a deep sleep by someone, who didn't belong, in his home. He defended his family.

What would you have done, hidden in your closet?

Before you spout off any more, familiarize yourself with Colorado law.
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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You gotta love all the Monday morning quarterbacks here who all know that the drunk person breaking into a house at 3am who ignores warnings that the home owner is armed, isn't a threat and the home owner should have just sat the intruder down and had some tea with them. Your insight to situations you weren't in and have no experience with is truly overwhelming.

As for her suing the home owners? Can you see that in front of a judge "I broke into their house, entered their bedroom, ignored their warnings and they shot me, they should pay!" What kind of idiot would go along with that?
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:18 PM
 
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Those drunken girls cause such a threat. When they group up they are really dangerous. If someone that owns a gun can't distinguish a threat perhaps they shouldn't own a gun.

She did something stupid, do we really need to put her in jail for it? what a waste of time. People have lost all common sense. Want to see what happened to America... We have taken too many stupid pills!
She needs to learn a lesson one way or the other. being shot is probably enough but maybe not. None of us know what her rock bottom is.

Having said that she could have ended up in a lot worse situations than what she did end up in and that includes being shot. If she didn't know where she was or what she was doing she could have been kidnapped, raped, murdered or any combination of the above including all of the above.
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Okay lets go old school- If some drunken girl or man staggered into my entrance..I would approach the person say " Hey you are really drunk"- then I would gently turn them around and give them a gentle push out the door - and lock it. That's the way it used to be done- no guns- no cops and no courts.

People were not terrified of everything that moved nor would they leap out of their beds with every bump in the night. This reminds me of that itchy fingered Zimmerman...You give the guy a law that protects him from prosecution in these situations ...people who are nuts or just plain mean water at the mouth in the hope of trying out that new Glock.
What planet do you live on? Your story makes it seem like it's a bright sunny day instead of 3 am while the family is asleep. You make it sound as if the family instantly pulled out their gun and started shooting instead of yelling warnings to the intruder.
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Tacoma, WA
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The homeowner did everything right, with the exception of not locking his door. As a matter of fact, he went above and beyond. He warned her 3 times that he was armed and told her to get out. She didn't comply and he pulled the trigger as she approached him and his wife in their bedroom.

I asked a local deputy if under Colorado's Make My Day law a homeowner is required to warn an intruder that they are armed. His answer was an emphatic NO.

The homeowner gave her a chance to leave, she didn't take it. That's her fault.
*shrugs* I lock my doors and deadbolts, and I don't understand why these homeowners didn't....but anyway...

I would consider anyone who comes into my house uninvited as a threat. Locally, there has been a rash of burglaries. Worse, one of my own friend's parents home was broken into home invasion style. The elderly parents were tied to a chair for hours, and the man was hit several times by the intruder. Both were threatened with guns.

I am trained to use my firearm. Someone breaks into my house uninvited, they'd better be prepared to die. I'm going to hit them in a spot more lethal than the hip, I guarantee.

As far as the original question is concerned: I don't necessarily think she will serve time just because she could. It would be better if she got some drug and alcohol counseling. No one ever needs to get so drunk they stupidly stumble into someone else's house.
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:27 PM
 
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do you think this girl should do jail time??? i think being shot was enough punishment..but that is just me.. alcohol can make you do some really stupid stuff


Girl shot while drunkenly trespassing could serve time
This article was poorly written. There is no mention of what time this happened.

I'm going to guess that the couple were still awake as the door was unlocked. So it's not like they were in bed and heard noises. Could they not see it was a drunk young girl who didn't have a knife or gun?

Sounds like they were a little trigger happy.

I agree, I think getting shot is enough punishment.
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