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Old 06-21-2012, 08:08 PM
 
Location: California
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Originally Posted by Vic 2.0 View Post
Okay, that's overboard. A missed shot would've been the responsibility of whoever fired it.

No way to excuse her, even if that were what we were all trying to do. She's already been shot. Without a time machine, she's not getting off the hook for this. So everybody calm down
It's not overboard at all because if she would not have entered their home the gun would never have been fired it is realistic that the a stray shot could have harmed someone. She endagered the surounding area.
I don't think anyone is upset over this it's a forum and we are just giving our opinions.
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Kentucky
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I would have shot her in the head. You know never know who could be intruding your home.
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Well of course, this is not the fault of the student. The entitlement generation expects--no, "deserves"--to be granted a special exemption from problems of their own creation.

This student should be commended for her heroism, assured that she is special and gifted, and returned proudly to the university without delay. She should also consider legal action against the homeowners who are truly at fault, because they purchased a house in the path of the student's drunken train wreck, and failed to lock the doors to avert this situation in the first place.
Oh, for Pete's sake, don't give the libs ideas. Unfortunately, they truly do think like your post.
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:45 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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I would have shot her in the head. You know never know who could be intruding your home.

what if it was a girl just sleep walking in the neighborhood, could happen you know.. would you feel proud if you splattered her brains all over your bed room, living room..
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:29 PM
 
Location: playing in the colorful Colorado dirt
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Getting shot isn't a sufficient lesson?
It's a hellacious lesson but, she shouldn't be allowed to just walk away from legal action because of it.

I'm not advocating a prison sentence here, just community service and a substance abuse class.
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:33 PM
 
Location: playing in the colorful Colorado dirt
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I would have shot her in the head. You know never know who could be intruding your home.
Well, that would be your choice and you would have to live with it.

A bit harsh unless they were shooting at you first.
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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this country is on the verge of financial collapse..putting people in jail for every little thing is just going to push this country closer to the big fall faster than it already is.... i still think being shot was enough..
If she was driving while impaired, wrapped her car around a telephone pole and injured herself in the process, would you still have sympathy? I doubt it.
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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Okay, that's overboard. A missed shot would've been the responsibility of whoever fired it.
That's why a 12 guage loaded with 00 or 000 buckshot is the superior home defense choice. The effective range will not exceed the average home and an intuder is going to die if they are within it.
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:44 PM
 
Location: playing in the colorful Colorado dirt
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Even if we are to assume every bit of their punishment was needed (i.e., necessary), it does not apply here. Like I said, we're talking about one drunken mistake vs a series of provocations while sober. Not comparable.



If you thought the consequences were too much, you would though, right? If someone was given the death penalty for stealing a candy bar, surely you wouldn't approve of that in the name of said person "having to deal with the consequences of their behavior"?

Also, on the word "deserve", you do realize this is entirely subjective. It's all based on your personal values and the emotional reaction you have to hearing of any given offense. If someone close to me was killed by a drunk driver, I might say anyone caught drunk behind the wheel deserves to be locked up for life. Who can argue that, without getting more logical than talking of what one "deserves"?



The message has already been sent to this one: Wander into a house uninvited, and you're liable to get shot. I think the only way to really send this girl the wrong message at this point would be to allow the ones who shot her to be punished, which I'm certainly opposed to.
I did forget to explain one thing. My boys were 12, 13 and 14 when they got into trouble and they didn't destroy any property, nor did anyone get hurt as a result of their behavior.
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:47 PM
 
Location: TX
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I don't care what anyone says. If you can't aim well enough to shoot an intruder in your own home, you shouldn't have a gun in the first place. The argument that this girl put anyone in any real danger is laughable, and a transparent attempt to justify further punishment when we all know it'd be pointless
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