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Old 10-22-2012, 04:48 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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I know people always joke about liberalism being a mental disease, however when I read some of the responses on here actually questioning and judging what this child did I think there maybe some validity to this diagnosise of the liberal mind (I'm assuming those judging her right to life are some form of liberal/socialist)! This will be very hard on this child. I am confident that when she grows older she will reflect and this and feel more confident and empowered in other areas of her life. She will not take cr* p from anybody, and will go on to defend those who cant protect themselves from the degenerate contingent in society. I am proud of this child, and even more proud of the parents who raised her!
You know what they say about assuming, right? So unless you know every poster's political leanings, maybe you should stick to debating the issue - as opposed to attacking half of your fellow Americans.
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Old 10-22-2012, 04:52 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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What another ignorant leftist comment....why should she leave her house? Sorry, no person is open to come into my house "Just because."



Under what law? WHen would you start leaving your child alone? Or are you one for keeping your child in the basement unti lthey are 26?



Another great (no not really) comment from the left...

Good for the little girl! Next time, don't leave a witness...
Do they even have left vs right in Russia, where that first poster you quoted is from? Or did you even bother noticing he/she is not American?

As I said in my above post, try debating the issue instead of mindlessly attacking a huge segment of the population. But I guess that's a common tactic when you have nothing of substance to say!
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Old 10-22-2012, 04:57 PM
 
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Good for her!
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Old 10-22-2012, 05:19 PM
 
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We do not have the "castle doctrine" in Canada.

I was born in rural Canada and had my own rifle by the age of 12 and a much better Ruger semi-auto with 4X scope by 13 to augment my paper route income by plinking ground-hogs for bounty by the local dairy farmers who would pay anything to keep their dairy herd from breaking legs stepping into ground hog holes.

No problem back in those days to be seen walking right down the mainstreet of town with my rifle and string of "hogs" hanging off my shoulder on my way home.

Does anyone here think that any intruder would have had an easy time of it in my home in the late 50's early 60's while I was home alone? Does anyone here think that my parents would have been charged for leaving me at home alone? Hell, that was common back then because we were responsible with no one telling us what and what was not good parenting.

this young girl was right on the front lines of a situation not of her making. No one should attempt to second guess either her or her mother's decision to tell her to hide AFTER securing the family handgun.

If reading between the lines is acceptable then you must propose one scenario as being just as likely as any other.
Mother knew the guy was in the house with his daughter.
Mother knew she'd have to run right past the bum on her way to any escape route. Mother did not know if another thug was waiting outside.
Parents shared knowledge of the firearm with their daughter to ensure it's ADEQUATE safety in her hands.

Result cannot be challenged. At the end of the day the lawbreaker with the obvious intent to do personal harm has suffered being shot while a 12 year old girl will have only her nightmares to overcome.

Now that there have been two similar crimes perpetrated by this cretin; hopefully he'll get a bright red star indicating 'PEDOPHILE' put beside his name and any further interaction between him and any community will be watched very closely by a throng of parents intent on protecting their children.

My summation; I sincerely hope this is just the beginning of the harsh painful lessons he will receive at the hands of either his fellow inmates, parents of children or kids he attempts to target themselves.
Holy CRAP!!! An EXCELLENT response!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-22-2012, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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If Obama had his way the girl would have had to defend herself with silly putty.
If Obama had his way she probably would be in jail, stand trial as an adult and then be sued by Eric Holder (weasle in charge). Thank God Oklahoma has a "make my day" law. To bad he's still
alive.
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Holiday, FL
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It has nothing to do with a system, it has to do with crime which every country experiences to a degree and the right for someone to defend themselves.
A child with a gun is not about property protection.
So.... Are you telling us that a 12 year-old girl does not have any right to defend herself??????

What do the children in Russia do? DIE?????

Think about it. We're not talking about Russian criminals either, if that might make a difference. This guy was American (and i have to admit that whether I like it or not), so it requires "American type" of justice and protection. I might also suggest that he might be able to understand the "message" he got from her.

My kids started learning about guns before they were 10 years of age. How to shoot, and especially the fact that once you pull that trigger, you can not call the bullet back. So, if you point the weapon and shoot, you better be sure you want your target to be shot.
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Holiday, FL
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According to the article she shot through the door when the handle was turned. It could have been a cop and she could have shot him in the head or heart and killed him/her.

Yea, teach 'em young to shoot people when they try to take your 'stuff'!
I believe that you will find, most times, cops will announce themselves before opening a door, even a closet. But, beyond that, a lot of closets have louvres in the doors. Very likely, she was able to see that it wasn't a cop.
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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We're not talking about protecting a property (which is a very controversial topic), but about a little girl with a gun, and a willingless to use it!!!

I can provide another example - school shootings. Try to find any in Russia. A country, that's since 1990's is way more troubled than US.

For us such things are totally incomprehensible. Even our pro-gunnners don't comprehend, when they are faced with such examples. That's simply unreal!

But for you that's a fact of life. Just like a homeless guy shooting a random woman on a street. Or a guy in a restaurant. Happened in New Orleans. National media didn't even pay much attention - because in US that's NORMAL.


Fight the source of the problem.


She didn't defend herself. She just shot a thief.
Sometimes naivete can come across as charming. This is not one of those times.

How many people are dead because the benevolent thief decided they didn't want a witness left alive to identify them? Answer: one is one too many.

She did the right thing. What the hell would you have done, been proper and asked the thief his intentions? That sounds like a Monty Python skit.

"I say, old bean, are you here to rob and rape me?"

No, miss, just rob, no raping, how terribly uncivilsed of you to think so!"

"Oi then, I'm terribly sorry, carry on with the robbing. Fancy a cuppa whilst you rummage through my home?"

"That would be lovely, thank you, miss."

To the 12 year old girl who is alive and safe I say, "Brava! Nice shooting!"
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Holiday, FL
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That's you ill fantasy. The only thing I know, is that she shot a miserable thief, rather than calling cops and run.
You were right about her calling her mother and getting instructions, but perhaps, you need to read the article again. She was connected to the 9-1-1 dispatcher when she shot him. She was the one that called 9-1-1, not her mother, and when her mother got there, the cops were already there.

But, if he's looking in a closet in a kid's room, he's not a thief. The only thing of value that's likely to be in a kid's closet is the kid. He'll be charged with burglary because he did not get the chance to make good with any abduction. In this country, walking into a kid's room is generally pretty obvious. If he's looking for valuables, that's not the place to look. If he's looking for the kid, that IS the room to search.

I'm afraid she was not dealing with a thief.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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You were right about her calling her mother and getting instructions, but perhaps, you need to read the article again. She was connected to the 9-1-1 dispatcher when she shot him. She was the one that called 9-1-1, not her mother, and when her mother got there, the cops were already there.

But, if he's looking in a closet in a kid's room, he's not a thief. The only thing of value that's likely to be in a kid's closet is the kid. He'll be charged with burglary because he did not get the chance to make good with any abduction. In this country, walking into a kid's room is generally pretty obvious. If he's looking for valuables, that's not the place to look. If he's looking for the kid, that IS the room to search.

I'm afraid she was not dealing with a thief.
The closet actually was a walk in closet inside the master bathroom. Jones had to go through the bedroom, then the bathroom, to get to the closet.

Kendra St. Clair: Oklahoma Girl, 12, Shoots Intruder During Home Burglary - ABC News

Edited to add: The house does not appear to have any nearby neighbors. If she had tried to leave the house, there was no place safe to go to.

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