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In 40+ years, I have only been represented by a labor union once, and I worked that job for about a year. I have had good supervisors and bad when it comes to "working things like that out". I'd give anything for a good set of work rules, union or no union.
Some of the non-union places I worked had policies such as, no more than a certain # of days off at Christmas so that everyone could get some time off; everyone has to work either Christmas or New Year's (in some places Thanksgiving was substituted for NY); etc.
Currently, my boss seems to follow "the squeaky wheel" theory, ie someone who kicks up a huge fuss will get what she wants, regardless of the circumstances. In fairness to her, she sometimes works an extra day herself to "keep the peace". But she knows who won't complain (too much anyway) and who will.
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Originally Posted by Katiana
You still haven't looked at my post, #500.
And Costco has fewer employees per unit of sale, b/c it's almost all self-service.
Yes I did read it. You said nothing about the work rules at your one union job.....you did say things were never certain in your non union jobs however.
I am saying when there is a union, work rules concerning holidays are spelled out clearly.....they are not up to the whim of a supervisor.
The union job was so long ago I don't remember the rules. I only worked there a year. My point was that union or no, work rules are needed or it ends up like my current job with everyone scrambling and carping at and about each other.
The union job was so long ago I don't remember the rules. I only worked there a year. My point was that union or no, work rules are needed or it ends up like my current job with everyone scrambling and carping at and about each other.
So we do agree that work rules should be in writing, union or non union, so less than savory supervisors can't abuse their position. Makes short work of those squeaky wheels too.
Yikes... in my area, that monthly income (even BEFORE) taxes wouldn't even cover rent on a 1br apartment. I guess that's why our local minimum wage is higher, I believe around $10/hr right now; but even that's not enough to sustain a single-income household/individual.
I consider any store that will not let its employees at least have off Thanksgiving, Christmas and Easter to be a Scrooge store and I don't do business with Scrooge.
How do you know those employees didn't OFFER to work? Maybe they don't celebrate and/or don't care about the holidays, and wanted the extra pay? That's how things went when I worked in a small retail shop, and thanks to the resident Jew (me) and another non-celebrator who volunteered, nobody else was pressured into working Christmas & Easter. Besides, anyone who has a problem with working occasional holidays shouldn't be in the retail business. My field requires regular nights & weekends, which is stated very clearly at the top of any related application... if you fail to read or understand that fact before applying, don't start whining when you're scheduled on a weekend.
Now, if people are being forced to work despite being told otherwise (i.e. the boss promised they'd get it off), I agree that is not fair. But it's not my business to run, so I generally won't even notice or care what they do... as with most things, I try focusing on my own life instead of nosing into other people's lives.
Back in the early seventies, I worked in the office at a K Mart for three years. I always volunteered for holidays and weekends.
Many times in my later years, when I worked in a job that was M-F......I always wished I could get a weekday off without using a personal day. It is hard to get anything done or repaired at home when you don't have a weekday off. Many businesses like lumber yards, nurseries, etc. have short hours on Sat. and are closed on Sunday too.
In my ideal work week, I would have liked Friday and Saturday.....or Sunday and Monday off.
Better yet, 4 ten hour days.....and three days off.
Of course, your post is nonsense. You cherish the holidays just like everyone else.
You right wingers are amazing, lemme tell ya. You say all this crap on websites, but in the end you're just like everyone else.
I love how you go to insults and put-downs when you have no coherent answer.
I just said that while I like certain holidays, I don't have some stupid, obsessive attachment to a made up day on a made up date that we're supposed to celebrate for made up reasons.
I consider any store that will not let its employees at least have off Thanksgiving, Christmas and Easter to be a Scrooge store and I don't do business with Scrooge.
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Get real.
Most of the planet isn't christian and could give a rat's patootie about xmas and easter.
Stop making it more inconvenient for everyone else by shutting everything down. Unless you're prepared to shut down for every other major holiday of everyone else's religions.
This is exactly why religion needs to be kept to yourself. I very much respect religion and believe in god, but people like to poop it all over everyone else and affect others' lives.
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Makes short work of those squeaky wheels too. 
I guess that's why our local minimum wage is higher, I believe around $10/hr right now; but even that's not enough to sustain a single-income household/individual.
