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Old 05-06-2013, 09:20 AM
 
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The reality is that the term "hispanic" has no clear definition. You can refer to the US Census Bureau to get an idea what that "label" encompasses.

Thus, you can be an indigenous Bolivian and be "hispanic," you can be a European Guatemalan and be "hispanic," you can be a kid born to Dutch expats in Nicaragua who left right after the kid's birth and be "hispanic," you can be the child of a second generation US American with "latin" roots and be "hispanic," or, are you ready for this? You can be the child of the kid born in Nicaragua to Dutch expats and STILL claim the label "hispanic," no matter where you were born, where you live, how you grew up, or what your cultural identity is.

The terms is so all-encompassing that it defines NOTHING. Instead, all it does is conjure up some stereotypical image of a "hispanic" person. In a sense, it's like "Jesus" - a name that also conjures up a mental image that may or may not be accurate.

It's an outdated term.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:21 AM
 
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LOL.... irony?

How about we analize this sentance?

On an online forum the only judge of someone's education and knowledge is what the type.
No thanks, my butt is mine!
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:23 AM
 
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His dad was a liberal elitist banker from Massachusetts who married a Mexican while living in Mexico. Shortly before she was due he flew her to the US to ensure his son would be a citizen. They returned to Mexico where he lived until daddy sent him to prep school.
Hmmm and the left had problems with John McCain....

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What in the hell is a "liberal elitist banker?"

*SIGH*

You don't know a damn thing about that man's father.
Then quit whining and tell your version or are you just whining?
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:24 AM
 
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His dad was a liberal elitist banker from Massachusetts who married a Mexican while living in Mexico. Shortly before she was due he flew her to the US to ensure his son would be a citizen. They returned to Mexico where he lived until daddy sent him to prep school.
You forgot about his mother being born into an Mexican Elitest family...


being American or Mexican or whatever is far less important than being born uber rich, to a banker family that really knows no boarders...


This is Mr. Richardson's qualifications to decide who gets to call themselves "Hispanic"
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Laurentia
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Of course Ted Cruz is Hispanic, seeing as he's half Cuban by heritage, and has a similar makeup to many people in Latin America that are always classified as Hispanic. He might not agree with the majority of Hispanics on political issues, but that doesn't make him any less Hispanic. That's like saying Herman Cain isn't Black because he's a Republican.

Ancestry and appearance define your race, not what your political views are.

Frankly, I don't think Ted Cruz, Bill Richardson, or any one person can represent an entire race with millions of members. However, at the same time I don't recall Ted Cruz (or even Bill Richardson) making any such claim.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:38 AM
 
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That's the view you get when you get your news from an agenda site like the Daily Caller.

This is Richardson's exact quote from ABC:

What Richardson is saying is that his politics does not represent that of most Hispanics.
Why is Cruz being called anti-immigration when it is illegal immigration he objects to? Richardson is the typical ethnocentric Hispanic who likes to blur the lines between legal and illegal. Apparently, when a Hispanic doesn't tow that ethnocentric line and put ethnicity above our laws they are called HINO's (Hispanic in name only). Yet these are the same kind of people that Obama wants to amnesty? Oh, joy.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:45 AM
 
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The reality is that the term "hispanic" has no clear definition. You can refer to the US Census Bureau to get an idea what that "label" encompasses.

Thus, you can be an indigenous Bolivian and be "hispanic," you can be a European Guatemalan and be "hispanic," you can be a kid born to Dutch expats in Nicaragua who left right after the kid's birth and be "hispanic," you can be the child of a second generation US American with "latin" roots and be "hispanic," or, are you ready for this? You can be the child of the kid born in Nicaragua to Dutch expats and STILL claim the label "hispanic," no matter where you were born, where you live, how you grew up, or what your cultural identity is.

The terms is so all-encompassing that it defines NOTHING. Instead, all it does is conjure up some stereotypical image of a "hispanic" person. In a sense, it's like "Jesus" - a name that also conjures up a mental image that may or may not be accurate.

It's an outdated term.
The term Hispanic merely means that you have ancestors from Spain and usually their primary language is Spanish. Other cultural traits can be chosen to adhere to or not depending on the person. Some people who don't even have Spanish ancestors have adopted the Hispanic ethnicity/culture because they live in a Hispanic country or have family ties to them to the point of even having an adversion to their own background sometimes.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:45 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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we need a president who was a highschool drop out. it seems that the ivy league folks just cannot figure it out.
I HS dropout might have what it takes..... common sense.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:56 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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At least he didn't call him a coconut. Not in print anyway.
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:02 AM
 
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Cruz sounds more Spanish than Richardson.
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