Is It Too Late To Save Detroit---Not If Liberals Democrats Are In Charge (examples, vote)

[burdell]

Originally Posted by no1brownsfan

To be fair, I wouldn't live in any of those locations either. I used to say if I had to leave northeast Ohio and relocate to another cold weather city, I'd pick Chicago, or New York. Now...no way in Hell!!!! So if I'm staying in a cold weather place, I'll stay where I'm at. Burdell alluded to climate as a big reason why people move south. Yes that does factor in, and believe me I've lived in the Cleveland area my whole life and I hate the damn cold! In fact I'm loving this 90 degree weather right now, as it beats the alternative. Still, if weather were the determining factor as to where I ended up, I would have moved to Florida years ago when I was young. But, it's not. And...well.... home is home. Plus summers are beautiful here.

Oh, I love Chicago, great city! I actually considered taking a job there one time until I was speaking to someone in February and learned the HIGH for the day was eleven BELOW I just couldn't do that to myself.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by bobtn

focus on cities going down the same reckless path and change their behavior. NOW, and change it 180 degrees.

But we should concede that for Detroit, it is simply too late.

We haven't declared it "simply too late" for Baghdad or Kabul after so many years so why should we give up on our own? But I agree with you we should focus on cities going down the same reckless path, American cities.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by UNC4Me

Who is "we"? If the residents and taxpayers to these cities want to devise and implement a plan to get themselves out of trouble, they should have at it. If by "we" you mean every taxpayer in the US, then no thanks.

If every taxpayer in the US wasn't burdened with policing the world, caring for our own places in need would be small potatoe$.

[no1brownsfan]

Originally Posted by burdell

Oh, I love Chicago, great city! I actually considered taking a job there one time until I was speaking to someone in February and learned the HIGH for the day was eleven BELOW I just couldn't do that to myself.

I didn't say Chicago wasn't a great city. But it's expensive as hell. Chicago gets less snow than here, but does tend to be colder in the winter.

[wade52]

allow the city of Detroit and the state of Michigan to apply their own solutions.

[Frank DeForrest]

Originally Posted by burdell

We haven't declared it "simply too late" for Baghdad or Kabul after so many years so why should we give up on our own? But I agree with you we should focus on cities going down the same reckless path, American cities.

The American workers of Arizona,Kansas, Iowa, Maine, etc. shouldn't have their confiscated earnings spent in Baghdad or Detroit. There is no justification for any of it.

[Rakin]

Originally Posted by Magnatomicflux

And you propose to do what, exactly, with the 715,000 people still living within city limits?

Build a wall around downtown and pass out guns. Kind of like the Alamo.

Detroit Police already take 58 minutes to respond to a call.

[Icy Tea]

Detroit Michigan is prime 'tater country. Bulldoze those abandoned homes buildings and rip up those parking lots and streets and have fields for growing spuds. Or grow corn or raise dairy or livestock herds. Or plant orchards.
Detroit has to reinvent itself so let it go green and give anybody willing to move their a free acre of land, or a tax break if they want to buy a farm. Hippy communes, people living off the grid, doomsday preppers, that sort.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

The American workers of Arizona,Kansas, Iowa, Maine, etc. shouldn't have their confiscated earnings spent in Baghdad or Detroit. There is no justification for any of it.

I'd say a case can be made that "promote the general welfare" justifies aiding Detroit, Baghdad not so much.

[MTAtech]

Originally Posted by alphamale

As always, facts are like Kryptonite to lefties.

I could say the same to you, who ignores facts in favor of pre-set ideology.

The fact is that the Detroit had one major industry, the U.S. auto industry. Fact: they faced major competition in the 1970s onward, from Japan. Fact: that decreased sales and GM, Ford, et al, responded by closing plants. Fact: they also moved plants to cheaper labor areas, including Mexico and Asia. Fact: as such, plants closed in Detroit and people fled, leaving the previous debts behind.

We know you are ideologically driven to blame it all on liberal policies but that's a false narrative. When oil fell to record low levels in the 1990s, Texas had a high unemployment problem that had nothing to do with government policies. Now that oil is over $100/bbl., oil pumping is driving the Texas economy and it isn't because of conservative Rick Perry. San Francisco is doing just fine, with a 5.4% UE level, while they are the most liberal city in America.