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Do you think it's really GOP Policies or is it demographics?
GOP policies hands down. Lazy trailer park rednecks that don't do anything but watch fox news and complain on internet forums all day about "da libs", while collecting welfare checks is all they do.
The real travesty here is that this country has allowed one of its great cities to fall into this level of disarray. It's always convenient to use veiled racism and party politics to construct scapegoats. However, If you want to look at the real culprits, look no further than the corporate entities that abandoned the city in droves--and took employment and industrial tax base with them.
It's not too late to save Detroit, but the city will have to be re-imagined. Doing that effectively will certainly require the city to make changes. It will also require the state of Michigan and the nation to assist.
Businesses are under no obligation to remain in a given municipality and provide jobs to it's residence. It is up to the municipality and it's leaders to attract business, as well as entice people to want to live there. I do agree with you that Detroit will have to re-invent itself if it wants to make a comeback. Other rust belt cities like Pittsburgh, and Cleveland to a degree are already doing that. And yes the populations of those 2 cities are declining, but it should stabilize at some point. Things are looking up now more than they were from 2000-2010, when we went from a renaissance in the late 80's and throughout the 90's to one of the poorest cities in the country. There is work to be done, and hopefully Detroit can figure it out as well. It certainly doesn't help that we keep losing manufacturing jobs to companies overseas.
People need jobs, not handouts, and those cities who handout welfare like candy, are doomed to die.
The majority of people receiving welfare subsidies are workers. Another huge percentage (roughly 25%) of people on SNAP (food stamps) for instance are the elderly, disabled and children.
There are lots of cities that were one industry town, like Pittsburgh. But Pittsburgh offered tax incentives and capital for businesses to relocate and expand while Detroit, and cities like Youngstown, decide that there isnt a need to entice businesses through these credits and would rather offer handouts to the poor.
hows that working out? It fails everytime...
People need jobs, not handouts, and those cities who handout welfare like candy, are doomed to die.
This simply isn't true. Youngstown is offering plenty of tax incentives and capital to lure new business. (and it's working, IMO) But the local conservatives scream "government pork!"
Liberals will be serving this degree of economic chaos and misery to the rest of the nation, in totem, and reduce America to a third world nation.
If you really like Detroit- vote Democrat. You will deliver many more cities to the same fate.
If you want America to prosper, vote anything BUT democrat. Look at the most prosperous cities in the USA- NONE of them are controlled by democrats.
Democrats= Poverty= More Democrats
Free, well to do people do not need democrats. Thus the goal of the democrat party is to create more dependent, poor people.
If you want your city to look like Detroit= vote Democrat
Really?
Shall we look at the leadership party affiliation in the 10 richest cities in the US?
10: Napa California - GOP
9: Boulder Colorado - Democrat
8: Boston, Mass - Democrat
7: Thousand Oaks California - Democrat
6: NYC NY - GOP (though many in the GOP think he should be a Democrat)
5: Trenton New Jersey - Democrat
4: San Francisco California - Do you even need to ask?
3: Washington DC - Democrat
2: San Jose California - Democrat
1: Stamford, Conn - GOP (though the mayor is pretty fed up with the fringe groups controlling the GOP so he's considering leaving the party).
GOP policies hands down. Lazy trailer park rednecks that don't do anything but watch fox news and complain on internet forums all day about "da libs", while collecting welfare checks is all they do.
Wow. Talk about profiling, you are the poster child. Is that demographic all that lives in the south? I think not. Who says "da libs"? That sounds more like someone from the northeast, but that's profiling too, isn't it?
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Really?
Shall we look at the leadership party affiliation in the 10 richest cities in the US?
10: Napa California - GOP
9: Boulder Colorado - Democrat
8: Boston, Mass - Democrat
7: Thousand Oaks California - Democrat
6: NYC NY - GOP (though many in the GOP think he should be a Democrat)
5: Trenton New Jersey - Democrat
4: San Francisco California - Do you even need to ask?
3: Washington DC - Democrat
2: San Jose California - Democrat
1: Stamford, Conn - GOP (though the mayor is pretty fed up with the fringe groups controlling the GOP so he's considering leaving the party).
The real travesty here is that this country has allowed one of its great cities to fall into this level of disarray. It's always convenient to use veiled racism and party politics to construct scapegoats. However, If you want to look at the real culprits, look no further than the corporate entities that abandoned the city in droves--and took employment and industrial tax base with them.
It's not too late to save Detroit, but the city will have to be re-imagined. Doing that effectively will certainly require the city to make changes. It will also require the state of Michigan and the nation to assist.
Look no further than the mayors who decided it was retribution time and decided to alienate their tax base.
Gradually greatly reduce services, one neighborhood at a time. When pop shrinks under 250k, start offering buyouts. Where not accepted, use eminent domain to seize property.
Which is it, gradually or greatly reduce services?
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This simply isn't true. Youngstown is offering plenty of tax incentives and capital to lure new business. (and it's working, IMO) But the local conservatives scream "government pork!"
Probably for no other reason than they're not getting any of it.
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