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Old 09-13-2013, 07:16 AM
 
Location: SC
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Originally Posted by uggabugga View Post
so this is the 'pollution' you spoke of? corn stalks and leaves being washed by rain into fields and streams?

what deleterious effect do you claim this has? the authors of the study don't mention a single one

are you aware that this is exactly the same protein that can be sprayed on USDA certified organic produce?
It is VERY DIFFERENT and 1000 times worse when it is engineered into the plant itself.
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:21 AM
 
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That's because the FDA simply accepts the studies done by Monsanto, which suppress or don't include that portion of the studies that show ill effects. They are also very short term studies, concealing what will occur over the long term.
Independent studies are expensive, and those that have been done are discredited and not published, to hide the truth.
but you already knew all that
why are you still under the impression that only monsanto can perform these studies?

why haven't all those scientists worldwide, well beyond the reach of the eeevil monsanto or the FDA, been able to demonstrate these mysteriously absent ill effects you speak of?

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It is VERY DIFFERENT and 1000 times worse when it is engineered into the plant itself.
really? tell us why
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:30 AM
 
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Thanks for the link & thread. It is a real shame, sad indeed that we have to fight for this.
It is also sad how the same people who support Monsanto, always show up in these threads, I wonder if they are on their payroll oh, nevermind, I know they must be.
Yes. It sure is -- especially since it is common knowledge that Monsanto doesn't want their own employees to eat genetically engineered foods in their own cafeteria as they know first hand about the dangers GM foods.

Eat it up Monsanto! | Greenpeace International



........Monsanto had its pants pulled down by Friends of the Earth in 1999, who revealed that the company was refusing to serve to its own staff the very same GE food that it incessantly foists upon impoverished nations on the premise that it will save populations from starvation. Although it has never been proved, Monsanto constantly claims that GE food is harmless – so why wasn't it serving it in its own office?
In one canteen, run by external provider, Sutcliffe Catering, a notice read that a decision has been taken to remove, as far as practicable, GE soya and maize from all food products served in the canteen. “We have taken the above steps to ensure that you, the customer, can feel confident in the food we serve", the provider said.
“We believe in choice”, said Monsanto, while the company actually made sure that by not serving GE food in its canteens they did not give staff the opportunity to ‘choose’ whether or not to eat GE food as they de facto ensure that the staff did not get to eat GE food. Yet the same choice isn’t available to farmers around the world, who most of the time have no choice but to plant GE crops, thanks to a seed market that is often dominated by Monsanto.
Once the GE seeds are in the ground, a vicious circle is started; farmers no longer have the opportunity to choose, as once GE seeds have been released into the environment ........
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:44 AM
 
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Millions of men, women and children are already dying of starvation. I keep hearing how GMO Plants are supposed to save the world and end the food crisis in different parts of the world but then I see statistics like this all the time.

2013 World Hunger and Poverty Facts and Statistics by World Hunger Education Service

And this is truly tragic because you know what, these aren't just statistics. They are people. They are brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, aunts, uncles and grandparents. Yesterday we remembered the 3,000 people who died 12 years ago in the terrorist attacks, which was truly tragic, but the thing is at least 13,000 CHILDREN are going to die today because they don't have enough food to eat.

From my link:
And no one ever wants to think about those children, because they either aren't Americans or they aren't OUR FAMILY. If this was happening in the United States, on a daily basis, I'm sure people would care a little more. But it doesn't and people don't (care). Another shocking thing about all of this is the fact that this isn't just a bullet to the head. Starvation is something these children (and adults) suffer with for a great deal of time before mercy finally comes in the form of death. It makes me sick, but 13,000 is just an inconvenient number to most people, which will be forgotten before the end of the day.

13,000 people. Children.
If you look at the history of those countries, none of their children were starving until the United States strong armed their way into their country and messed things up for them. Listen to any of John Perkins' lectures on YouTube author of CONFESSIONS OF AN ECONOMIC HITMAN. It is all about our country's nation building. Once you do that you'll see how we've been lied to about how "generous" this nation is and how "good" we are. In fact we've gone around forcing leaders of nations into corners if they don't go along with our plan to take over their natural resources; build factories there; force their people to work there for slaves' wages and arrange financing with overseas banksters to pay for the infrastructure and make the country pay for it!!! These were formerly self-sufficient nations!
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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The Monsanto protection act is back and may be included in the new 3-month spending bill!

Though wrapped in a “farmer-friendly” package, the Monsanto-driven rider remains simply a biotech industry ploy to continue to plant GE crops even when a court of law has found they were approved illegally.

Will you join me in telling Congress to exclude this dangerous rider in the upcoming spending bill?

Center for Food Safety | Tell Congress to Dump the Monsanto Protection Act!

Thanks to those of you who care! It is a crying shame we even have to fight for something like this.
Whomever fills the campaign chest coffers....that is all that counts.
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:56 AM
 
Location: SC
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Isn't this pathetic? I think what the property owner said is probably right.

We can't stand for this.

[LEFT]I think the reason the Gestapo raided this place was summed up well by the property owner in a statement she released: “We have been targeted by the system because we are showing people how to live without it.” The government has to feel needed. When they feel their grip of control fade even the slightest bit, they must remind the people who is really in control. To a power-hungry government, independence is terrorism.
Read more at SWAT Team Raids Texas Organic Farm, Holds Residents At Gunpoint


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Old 09-13-2013, 08:07 AM
 
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To this day (9.12.2013) there is absolutely no concrete accredited scientific proof that GM foods cause health issues with Human Beings...
Naturally the mfrs of GE foods paying for the testing are going to find scientists that are going to provide the results they want. You know that is how the FDA works don't you????? HMMM?????? (Duh). The FDA is a FARCE! They approve all SORTS of dangerous deadly substances on a daily basis! If that kind of testing is your definition of "accredited scientific proof" than Heaven help you! Sometimes the FDA approved products stay on the shelves until there are numerous deaths linked to those products. Our government doesn't care about our health and safety and hasn't for a long long time if ever.
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:18 AM
 
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Haven't the critics figured out yet that blaming and fighting with "the other party" which no longer exists, because Republicans and Democrats are one and the same, is EXACTLY what the globalists want?

"I don't find such naivete compelling."

Look who is talking. YOU are the one who is naive if you think it makes good sense to trust BIG FOOD and BIG AGRA and our government with our food supply--- with their track record.


I guess you've never heard the expression "Divide and conquer".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_conquer
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:32 AM
 
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Yes. It sure is -- especially since it is common knowledge that Monsanto doesn't want their own employees to eat genetically engineered foods in their own cafeteria as they know first hand about the dangers GM foods.

Eat it up Monsanto! | Greenpeace International



........Monsanto had its pants pulled down by Friends of the Earth in 1999, who revealed that the company was refusing to serve to its own staff the very same GE food that it incessantly foists upon impoverished nations on the premise that it will save populations from starvation. Although it has never been proved, Monsanto constantly claims that GE food is harmless – so why wasn't it serving it in its own office?
In one canteen, run by external provider, Sutcliffe Catering, a notice read that a decision has been taken to remove, as far as practicable, GE soya and maize from all food products served in the canteen. “We have taken the above steps to ensure that you, the customer, can feel confident in the food we serve", the provider said.
“We believe in choice”, said Monsanto, while the company actually made sure that by not serving GE food in its canteens they did not give staff the opportunity to ‘choose’ whether or not to eat GE food as they de facto ensure that the staff did not get to eat GE food. Yet the same choice isn’t available to farmers around the world, who most of the time have no choice but to plant GE crops, thanks to a seed market that is often dominated by Monsanto.
Once the GE seeds are in the ground, a vicious circle is started; farmers no longer have the opportunity to choose, as once GE seeds have been released into the environment ........
a 14-year-old recycled myth? really?

Debunked: Monsanto canteens (cafeterias) serve non-GMO foods | Metabunk
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:38 AM
 
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Get somebody with half a brain to help you Google it! There are scores of articles regarding this incident. Just because one source can't be verified doesn't mean it didn't happen!!! DUH!

Since when does it take a SWAT team to raid a vegetable garden? I suppose you think that because the people are "hipsters" their rights should be trampled on!


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Oh no, not more weepy cry-baby articles by hipsters that want to do things their way in cities and found out they can't.

Only hipsters and other stupid people would think because "it's private land" it's no longer under a cities ordinances...

NFN but the sources of the articles cannot be verified (alternet.com) - seems the domain is for sale, so it's BS...

The picture of the massive number of SWAT members? - A stock photo from Wikimedia, has nothing to do with the police raid...

Seems these articles are MASSIVE mistruths and lies....
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