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I'm not a shareholder in your business. Why should I care if it's profitable or is around longer?
Lets see..18,000 ex Hostess workers unemployed. A few thousand working now, making slightly less. Hmmm.I wonder which group is better off? Surely, being able to insert two puffs of creme into a cake will not have 18k unemployed long, nor earning any less than they used to.
Those laws that unions helped pass include child labor laws, the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) and occupational safety legislation. Requiring that your workers shouldn't be subjected to dangerous chemicals is hardly an unacceptable constraints on business. Without vigilant unions we can see how business lobbyists will water down legislation.
What we find is that when unions were strong, wages tracked productivity gains. Since the decline of unions, wages remain stagnant regardless of productivity gains, which flow to the owner class.
Unions are still needed.
You are referencing inaccurate wages. Your numbers show that wages are stagnant since 1965. This is because immigrants and women (mostly coming in as low skill-low wage) have entered the work force in dramatic numbers since 1965 skewing average wages down...while studies showing individual have shown wages beating inflation and thus real wages increasing.
Your own source, Bureau of Economic Analysis, also says that "spending by households on many of modern life's "basics"—food at home, automobiles, clothing and footwear, household furnishings and equipment, and housing and utilities—fell from 53% of disposable income in 1950 to 44% in 1970 to 32% today."
Nonsense. We should have freedom of association, and RTW protects that. Join voluntarily if you wish, opt not to if you wish.
But do you realize that choosing to be in a union is nearly impossible nowadays in the US?
As soon as employees begin talking union, management invariably attacks. They start firing suspecting union sympathizers, threatening mass layoffs if a union is voted in, refusing to negotiate in good faith if unionization succeeds, refusing to honor the terms of unions contracts if even they are legally negotiated, etc. Most of these tactics are illegal, of course. But that doesn't matter. Even if illegality can be proved (a costly legal process that can take years), the fines and penalties are so minor, employers just go ahead and break the law anyway.
There is no freedom of association in the US workplace nowadays. American workers are about as free to join unions as workers in Egypt and Saudi Arabia. The only difference is, US workers just get fired instead of killed.
But do you realize that choosing to be in a union is nearly impossible nowadays in the US?
As soon as employees begin talking union, management invariably attacks. They start firing suspecting union sympathizers, threatening mass layoffs if a union is voted in, refusing to negotiate in good faith if unionization succeeds, refusing to honor the terms of unions contracts if even they are legally negotiated, etc. Most of these tactics are illegal, of course. But that doesn't matter. Even if illegality can be proved (a costly legal process that can take years), the fines and penalties are so minor, employers just go ahead and break the law anyway.
There is no freedom of association in the US workplace nowadays. American workers are about as free to join unions as workers in Egypt and Saudi Arabia. The only difference is, US workers just get fired instead of killed.
So it's okay with you for union wanna-bes to violate an employers rights. But it's not okay for an employer to exercise his rights?
In a few publicized cases, yes, but were it widespread unions would lose 90%+ of elections, and that is not happening.
Oh, my God, are you even minimally familiar with what you're talking about???
Most organizing drives are killed long before any election can be held. As soon as anyone starts to try and organize a unionization, they get fired. The other employers are so scared, they typically either quit or completely abandon the drive. Almost no organizing drives get past that initial stage. It is not just a few publicized cases. Illegal activity by employers in unionization drives is the norm. Almost no employers obey the law!
Only a tiny percentage of organizing drives survive to the point where an election is held. If they can get that far, that means the shop is usually committed and/or the management unusually inept. Those are the ones that win, and they are extremely rare.
But employers act ILLEGALLY to prevent unions from organizing. Didn't you read what I said???
Just because something is illegal does make it right. Didn't you read what I said?
It is illegal for an employer to tell his employees what will happen if a union is formed.
Seems to me that is Congress passing a law that impedes on an employers right to free speech. A clear violation of the Constitution and trampling of one's rights.
Why shouldn't an employee be able to talk to both sides and then make a decision? No reason they shouldn't get all the information before making a decision, not just one side.
That's just one of the myriad of rights employers have had stripped from them by unions.
But I guess your okay with that. As long as it's someone else's rights.
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