To liberals: how do you guys defend Obama so willingly? (politicians, elections)

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by petch751

Sorry, you are very wrong. Anyone who believes that any one man, that any one party is the answer to all problems is a fool. The nazis had a name for these types, "useful idiots".

Im still not getting your point. When did anyone make those claims, and even if they did, that doesnt make them cult members. You even say Democrats are always wrong.

you posted 3 pictures. One of which was a political joke(first gay Presidnet), one was just an Obama snap shot in front of his campaign Logo, and the 3rd was talking about a political situation, none of which made your point.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by petch751

Anyone who believes that the government has their best interest at heart out of compassion is again... a fool.

That is a political philosophy not a truth. By that logic, once someone is elected, you should never support them because they no longer have your best interest at heart.

[greywar]

blah blah blah.

Look give us a better choice then! Seriously...Romney? Democrats don't elect the president, nor can Republicans. Give the Independents someone to vote for! Obama was by FAR the best choice. If you think thats horrible, then consider this...your guy was considered worse by far! The votes dont lie.

[AZcardinal402]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

His first day in office, he signed an executive Order asking congress to close Gitmo, since by law, they control it, not him.

Transparency is an opinion, not a fact. Can you comparatively say he has been less transparent than other administrations ?

The Post racial one doesnt really make sense. What exactly are you saying ?

As for Insurance, you can keep it. Are you claiming companies did not cancel policies before this year ? You do realize that the cancellation that have come out equal less than 1% of insurance holders right ?

Drone Strikes, again, Where and what in the campaign does this pertain to ? Did he claim he would never use drones ??? same goes for F&F.

And what issue with Holder ?

The democrats controlled both houses after his election...if closing gitmo were priority it would have gotten done. He has been lambasted by liberals over this for years...don't play dumb.

ACA is the model of zero transparency. The law which effectively changes the relationship of the federal government and 1/6 of our national economy was done at night and behind closed doors. We all know Pelosi's quote...

Obama said the words post-racial...not me. His interjection into the Trayvon Martin case injected his race into it. Whether it was intentional or not, and it very well may not have been, it injected the POTUS's race as an issue which further divided the nation.

150,000 policies were just cancelled in Oregon. The numbers keep increasing. Whether its 5 people or 5 million...citizens were lied to. "If you like your policy, no one can take it from you." This is as straightforward as it gets, my friend.

Same issue with drone strikes as gitmo. Obama was critical of drones during the 08 election...liberals have criticized him over this inconsistency.

Transparency issues with Holder on subpoened records and his reluctance to participate! ...jeez don't you read the paper

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by AZcardinal402

The democrats controlled both houses after his election...if closing gitmo were priority it would have gotten done. He has been lambasted by liberals over this for years...don't play dumb.

After President Obama took office, that session of congress had the most filibusters in its history, saying that controlling congress means it would get done is pure naivety.

ACA is the model of zero transparency. The law which effectively changes the relationship of the federal government and 1/6 of our national economy was done at night and behind closed doors. We all know Pelosi's quote...

No, that is not the model of zero transparency. Your definition of "zero transparency" would mean that every law fits its description.

Obama said the words post-racial...not me. His interjection into the Trayvon Martin case injected his race into it. Whether it was intentional or not, and it very well may not have been, it injected the POTUS's race as an issue which further divided the nation.

I dont remember the President ever using the phrase post racial to describe himself, which doesnt even matter to the example you are using as being "Post racial" does not mean you have never experienced racism or racial stereotypes and recognize them when they happen.

150,000 policies were just cancelled in Oregon. The numbers keep increasing. Whether its 5 people or 5 million...citizens were lied to. "If you like your policy, no one can take it from you." This is as straightforward as it gets, my friend.

Citizens were never lied to. Companies decided to cancel policies, They have the ability to do that. The ACA never forced these people to cancel their own policies which is what the President was saying and you know that. Why are you trying to frame this in a different light ?

Same issue with drone strikes as gitmo. Obama was critical of drones during the 08 election...liberals have criticized him over this inconsistency.

President Obama was not critical of Drone strikes in the 08 campaign, infact Drones do not even appear in any of the promises he made in 2008

PolitiFact | Should President Barack Obama apologize for flip-flop on drone strikes? Louisiana lawmaker says yes

PolitiFact | The Obameter: Tracking Obama's Campaign Promises

Progressives(not Liberals) are against him on drone strikes because they are against wars all together, regardless of how they are engaged, not because he made some promise or campaigned against drones. The drone argument is one based in frustration by the right, not fact.

and I hate politifact, but this is one of the few times they get it right.

Transparency issues with Holder on subpoened records and his reluctance to participate! ...jeez don't you read the paper

Yes, i read, but im also not blind. Republicans asked for documents that had absolutely nothing to do with F&F

[jambo101]

One can disagree with President Obama all they want but the fact remains he was duly elected in a fair vote by the majority of the voting American public,
Then just to prove the peoples resolve he was duly re-elected to a second term as President.
Problem for righties in a democratic election is the majority wins and they lost.
Have the GOP learned anything in their defeat? apparently not as they continue to alienate even more people as time goes on, they do relatively nothing for the betterment of America other than have a continuous hissy fit, call people names and hate anyone who doesnt agree with their contorted way of thinking.

[HistorianDude]

Were it not for Obama Derangement Syndrome on the part of the American lunatic fringe, we would probably have about 1/3 the total number of threads started in this forum.

[Futurist110]

Originally Posted by AZcardinal402

So I ask you...why defend this man when he has so clearly governed in a manner inconsistent with his campaign promises?

Because Obama did a good job with some things. When Obama did a bad job with some other things, then I criticize him for it.

[Ringo1]

Originally Posted by petch751

Sorry, you are very wrong. Anyone who believes that any one man, that any one party is the answer to all problems is a fool. The nazis had a name for these types, "useful idiots".

Anyone who believes that the government has their best interest at heart out of compassion is again... a fool.

No one believes that but you, poster. No one.

[Eddyline]

I voted the last two elections for the lesser of two evils. That hardly puts me in a position the I have to defend Obama. I'm glad he will not have a third term but I see no one running that I can get excited about.