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Anyone with a 3rd grade command of arithmetic and the ability to read the published history of budgets on The United States House of Representatives · House.gov and U.S. Senate can understand why anyone with any fiscal common sense at all, like Rand Paul, would oppose yet another "solves all financial problems at some extended future date, but does nothing at all in year one when it matters" budget plan.
Every year, there's a brand new 10-20 year plan that solves everything by year 10-20, but does nothing in year 1. And every year, last's year's magic plan is replaced and the new "magic, fix everything" date is reset. This is possible because per the US Constitution, Congresses are not held to the legislative promises of prior Congresses. Boehner can craft some rock solid, carved in stone budget that does some magic in 2020, and next year, that promise is irrelevant and can be whisked away by the new budget...per the rules.
So yeah, there are critics. Why? Because the budget plan as currently outlined does nothing NOW minus undoing the sequestration in a naked pandering effort for the 2014 midterms, so it does negative in the immediate, real term, and will do none of the promised future stuff because next year it will get rewritten and made worse when the Democrats once again scare the feckless, timid republicans into another spending binge corner because the GOP is more and more convinced every day that the best way to win elections is just be Democrats.
The title of this thread makes it seem that Boehner is "lashing out" at Republicans in the House - which is not exactly the case. He is speaking out against Conservative groups that came out against this Budget plan before it was even announced. Both Rollcall and The Hill (publications that cover Congressional action) report that the Budget Deal was well received in the meetings held yesterday.
Heritage Action, Freedom Works, Club for Growth & Americans for Prosperity are all against this Budget and announced that before the Budget was even released. They had a highly placed insider in the Republican Study Committee, that was feeding them information. He was fired yesterday. I guess one of these Activist groups can hire him, but why would they really want a person who is already known to be untrustworthy?
The conservative Republican Study Committee, the bastion of right-wing strategy on Capitol Hill, has fired its longtime executive director Paul Teller, accusing him of leaking conversations with lawmakers.
If there were any staffer on Capitol Hill that were nearly as powerful as a member of Congress, it was Teller. He has been involved in conservative strategy for more than a decade, helping drag legislative debates to the right.
I have no idea if this will pass or not, but I do agree with Paul Ryan (smarter that the majority of the CongressCritters) - it's way past time for the Congress to take back control of Budgets and Legislation. This Budget doesn't "undo Sequestration" - it does change some things in it that most Republicans and many Democrats don't like. The Defense Department was gutted in the Sequester, some money goes back to them. An equal amount goes to Social type programs, but to specific programs that are mostly job training and not complete boondoggles. It also removes the "across the board" component of the Sequester, which allows each department to cut the fat and keep the meat. There is a lot more to this Budget than just the small 2 year changes in the Sequester - 2 important Pension reforms, cuts in Slush funds (billions of dollars that Obama, Holder, Lew and Reid use for their own purposes) and most importantly - it's a two year deal, which gets us past the certain shenanigans that Obama and the Leftists will attempt before the 2014 elections. They can't stage another Shutdown to blame on Republicans.
Democrats don't like this Budget Deal (92% of the Sequester is still in place, they don't get new Taxes on the Evil Rich and they don't get another 99 week extension in Un-employment bennies) - This whole thing could get pushed off until January. The deadline for a Shutdown is January 15th and the Debt Ceiling comes right after that on February 7th. Obama and the Democrats are on the ropes right now over the Debacle of ObamaCare, there is nothing they would love more than another battle with the GOP and the press pounding them daily for a "Fiscal Crisis".
The Democrats have ONLY one plan - Demonize the "Millionaires and Billionaires" that have an income of $200,000 a year, paint the GOP as the party of "NO" that won't pass bills (ignoring that Reid in the Senate won't bring anything but his agenda to a vote) and manufacture Crisis over Budgets, Spending, Debt Ceilings, War on Women, War on Brown people, War on Black people, War on the fairy tale of the day. New Republic (Leftist media) has a great article about how this is a "win" for the Democrats because it's going to cause more "war" in the GOP and it will act even crazier. They are absolutely certain that ObamaCare is going to be a Big Win for Democrats because the web-site appears to work a little better and that they will still get their "War" over the Debt Ceiling.
This is Low Information thinking on all sides - ObamaCare does have serious problems beyond the web-site and is very likely to cause even more headaches next year. The Sequester is still in place and not gutted as the Far Right Wing is stating. The real goal has to remain - retake the Senate, because that is the ONLY way to control the Obama Agenda and really institute some badly needed reforms.
I have no idea if this will pass or not, but I do agree with Paul Ryan (smarter that the majority of the CongressCritters) - it's way past time for the Congress to take back control of Budgets and Legislation. This Budget doesn't "undo Sequestration" - it does change some things in it that most Republicans and many Democrats don't like. The Defense Department was gutted in the Sequester, some money goes back to them.
You have to wonder where people come up with this stuff? The Defense department was NOT gutted. What a friggen joke. When you get into such hyperbole it completely negates any point you might think you have.
You have to wonder where people come up with this stuff? The Defense department was NOT gutted. What a friggen joke. When you get into such hyperbole it completely negates any point you might think you have.
I think liposuction is a better description with respect to the DoD.
The title of this thread makes it seem that Boehner is "lashing out" at Republicans in the House - which is not exactly the case. He is speaking out against Conservative groups that came out against this Budget plan before it was even announced. Both Rollcall and The Hill (publications that cover Congressional action) report that the Budget Deal was well received in the meetings held yesterday.
Heritage Action, Freedom Works, Club for Growth & Americans for Prosperity are all against this Budget and announced that before the Budget was even released. They had a highly placed insider in the Republican Study Committee, that was feeding them information. He was fired yesterday. I guess one of these Activist groups can hire him, but why would they really want a person who is already known to be untrustworthy?
I have no idea if this will pass or not, but I do agree with Paul Ryan (smarter that the majority of the CongressCritters) - it's way past time for the Congress to take back control of Budgets and Legislation. This Budget doesn't "undo Sequestration" - it does change some things in it that most Republicans and many Democrats don't like. The Defense Department was gutted in the Sequester, some money goes back to them. An equal amount goes to Social type programs, but to specific programs that are mostly job training and not complete boondoggles. It also removes the "across the board" component of the Sequester, which allows each department to cut the fat and keep the meat. There is a lot more to this Budget than just the small 2 year changes in the Sequester - 2 important Pension reforms, cuts in Slush funds (billions of dollars that Obama, Holder, Lew and Reid use for their own purposes) and most importantly - it's a two year deal, which gets us past the certain shenanigans that Obama and the Leftists will attempt before the 2014 elections. They can't stage another Shutdown to blame on Republicans.
Democrats don't like this Budget Deal (92% of the Sequester is still in place, they don't get new Taxes on the Evil Rich and they don't get another 99 week extension in Un-employment bennies) - This whole thing could get pushed off until January. The deadline for a Shutdown is January 15th and the Debt Ceiling comes right after that on February 7th. Obama and the Democrats are on the ropes right now over the Debacle of ObamaCare, there is nothing they would love more than another battle with the GOP and the press pounding them daily for a "Fiscal Crisis".
The Democrats have ONLY one plan - Demonize the "Millionaires and Billionaires" that have an income of $200,000 a year, paint the GOP as the party of "NO" that won't pass bills (ignoring that Reid in the Senate won't bring anything but his agenda to a vote) and manufacture Crisis over Budgets, Spending, Debt Ceilings, War on Women, War on Brown people, War on Black people, War on the fairy tale of the day. New Republic (Leftist media) has a great article about how this is a "win" for the Democrats because it's going to cause more "war" in the GOP and it will act even crazier. They are absolutely certain that ObamaCare is going to be a Big Win for Democrats because the web-site appears to work a little better and that they will still get their "War" over the Debt Ceiling.
This is Low Information thinking on all sides - ObamaCare does have serious problems beyond the web-site and is very likely to cause even more headaches next year. The Sequester is still in place and not gutted as the Far Right Wing is stating. The real goal has to remain - retake the Senate, because that is the ONLY way to control the Obama Agenda and really institute some badly needed reforms.
You will NEVER have a veto proof majority in the senate. As long as Obama is president his agenda, the part of it that has passed, will go forward along with the regulatory and executive order initiatives. As for what has not passed, it is DOA in the House anyway, so really nothing of substance is going to change until 2016 when Hillary wins and the Dems take both houses.
You have to wonder where people come up with this stuff? The Defense department was NOT gutted. What a friggen joke. When you get into such hyperbole it completely negates any point you might think you have.
One half of the Sequester cuts came from the Defense Department. If not "gutted", certainly the cuts were dis-proportionate. It was an embarrassment to this Nation to hear our top Military admit in hearings that the USA could not take any action in Syria because we can not afford it. There is not a single Department than can operate efficiently when they have that kind of cut. The Department of Janitor Broom closets would be "gutted" if they had to figure out a way to operate with 1/2 of total Spending cuts. Obama thought the horror of cutting Defense that much would guarantee that ZERO cuts would ever happen - He was wrong.
The Sequester was Obama's idea to get his Debt Ceiling deal in 2011 to last until after his re-election - it was never a "policy" decision, it was a gimmick they never thought (on either side) would happen. Kudos to the Republicans for holding the Dem's feet to the fire on that, but it's no secret that both Democrats and Republicans don't much like the Sequester. It's great leverage for the GOP to get some changes made in spending - the Sequester is not the end all, and be all of spending reduction.
This is less than 10% of the Sequester AND it's only for 2 years ….. the rest of the Budget Control Act and the Sequester remains in place.
The Defense Department has become "The Department of Everything" in the last several years. Tom Coburn did one of the his Congressional Research reports on the idiotic things that are now considered "Defense Spending". They certainly have a lot of room to cut that junk out and with control (through the new Ryan-Murray Budget plan) they will have the power to do that. The Sequester as written in the Budget Control Act of 2011 mandated across the board cuts to every program within every department. They now will have 2 years to cut the Fat and useless stuff if they have the nerve to do it.
One half of the Sequester cuts came from the Defense Department. If not "gutted", certainly the cuts were dis-proportionate. It was an embarrassment to this Nation to hear our top Military admit in hearings that the USA could not take any action in Syria because we can not afford it.
They took no actions because it was political suicide. Nothing more. We are still spending billions to kill all over the middle east.
We heard all sorts of doom and gloom predictions concerning the sequester and none of them happened. Unemployment has improved the two months after the government shut down, not the devastation that was claimed would happen.
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There is not a single Department than can operate efficiently when they have that kind of cut. The Department of Janitor Broom closets would be "gutted" if they had to figure out a way to operate with 1/2 of total Spending cuts. Obama thought the horror of cutting Defense that much would guarantee that ZERO cuts would ever happen - He was wrong.
The Sequester was Obama's idea to get his Debt Ceiling deal in 2011 to last until after his re-election - it was never a "policy" decision, it was a gimmick they never thought (on either side) would happen. Kudos to the Republicans for holding the Dem's feet to the fire on that, but it's no secret that both Democrats and Republicans don't much like the Sequester. It's great leverage for the GOP to get some changes made in spending - the Sequester is not the end all, and be all of spending reduction.
This is less than 10% of the Sequester AND it's only for 2 years ….. the rest of the Budget Control Act and the Sequester remains in place.
The Defense Department has become "The Department of Everything" in the last several years. Tom Coburn did one of the his Congressional Research reports on the idiotic things that are now considered "Defense Spending". They certainly have a lot of room to cut that junk out and with control (through the new Ryan-Murray Budget plan) they will have the power to do that. The Sequester as written in the Budget Control Act of 2011 mandated across the board cuts to every program within every department. They now will have 2 years to cut the Fat and useless stuff if they have the nerve to do it.
Boehner kept it up today saying groups like Club for Growth and the Heritage Foundation have "lost all credibility". Even Ryan took a poke at the Teas saying he was surprised by their bad mouthing the agreement before they even had an agreement with respect to the budget bill.
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