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Its a reference to the 1950's era where the highest rate was in fact 90%....and through the use of loopholes etc was actually about a 44% rate. Our current rich seem to be just as adept at it, so a 90% tax rate would probably end up being about a 44% effective rate.
But yes 90% DOES get mentioned. when it does the right screams about how thats not what was actually paid, blah blah blah. Ignoring the fact that even at a 44% effective rate our country was doing great.
As for the question 2, I don't know the answer either. Please ask those who want to raise taxes on other people.
Why don't you ask the person who talks about social responsibility then?
You are asking random people to identify the thinking behind some strangers statements you can't even point to or describe, and like I would expect...people are wondering what the hell you are talking about. Ask the person who made the statements and get their view. If you can't and still desire it, that is your problem that you need to take responsibility for.
It certainly doesn't help when you start making up unsourced numbers and claims that you can't point to either. It shows a lack of integrity to ones self to believe things without any foundation or fact behind them. Even more so to spout those claims at others.
Basically has we have seen since the mid 60's;wealth sharing schemes have just resulted in shift of middle class to other countries and the rich getting richer. Shared wealth will always be the bottom.
Which one? The one that is an obvious setup? The one that ignores JUST how much the poor pay in taxes while pretending that the only taxes that really matter are federal?
I mean really lets be honest, do we want to add to the burden of the poor, then give it back to them?
Basically its a stupid question. Its "hey how much should we take from those who are so desperately poor, that we will then have to give back as they cant truly afford it?"
FACT-the working poor pay more in social security taxes as a % of their income then the rich. And its a significant tax. 6.2% from their check, matched by 6.2% from their employers that would otherwise be available to them, effectively a 12.4% tax.....and for those who are in the top .1% that represents...well...a rounding error somewhere. Because that tax stopped around 112K or so. after that your income isnt taxed at all.
Or are you talking about the unemployed? those who cant find work? Or?
Its a very vague question that is framed as a "gotcha" question. Its not someone trying to find a honest topic of discussion.
Which one? The one that is an obvious setup? The one that ignores JUST how much the poor pay in taxes while pretending that the only taxes that really matter are federal?
I mean really lets be honest, do we want to add to the burden of the poor, then give it back to them?
Basically its a stupid question. Its "hey how much should we take from those who are so desperately poor, that we will then have to give back as they cant truly afford it?"
FACT-the working poor pay more in social security taxes as a % of their income then the rich. And its a significant tax. 6.2% from their check, matched by 6.2% from their employers that would otherwise be available to them, effectively a 12.4% tax.....and for those who are in the top .1% that represents...well...a rounding error somewhere. Because that tax stopped around 112K or so. after that your income isnt taxed at all.
Or are you talking about the unemployed? those who cant find work? Or?
Its a very vague question that is framed as a "gotcha" question. Its not someone trying to find a honest topic of discussion.
We are talking about the equality or fairness here. Each vote from us counts only as one vote. That is correct, right? If that's the case, why should the rich pay more income taxes sometimes more both in percentage and in the absolute number? That's a typical taxation without representation.
If we are all equal, then all of us should pay the same amount of tax. Since the poor can't pay, then we shouldn't be paying any income or property taxes. That would be equal and fair to everybody.
If you argue that the rich should pay even more, shouldering more for the society, then I would like to know what the poor are responsible for?
We are talking about the equality or fairness here. Each vote from us counts only as one vote. That is correct, right? If that's the case, why should the rich pay more income taxes sometimes more both in percentage and in the absolute number? That's a typical taxation without representation.
If we are all equal, then all of us should pay the same amount of tax. Since the poor can't pay, then we shouldn't be paying any income or property taxes. That would be equal and fair to everybody.
If you argue that the rich should pay even more, shouldering more for the society, then I would like to know what the poor are responsible for?
Your thread clearly talks about social responsibility, which you couldn't identify when asked, and now you are moving the goal posts to include fairness. Just give up, you're transparent.
We are talking about the equality or fairness here. Each vote from us counts only as one vote. That is correct, right? If that's the case, why should the rich pay more income taxes sometimes more both in percentage and in the absolute number? That's a typical taxation without representation.
If we are all equal, then all of us should pay the same amount of tax. Since the poor can't pay, then we shouldn't be paying any income or property taxes. That would be equal and fair to everybody.
If you argue that the rich should pay even more, shouldering more for the society, then I would like to know what the poor are responsible for?
People that don't pay to fund the government should not be permitted to vote. You should not be permitted to affect the dispostion of resources if you don't have any skin in the game.
No representation without taxation!!
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