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Old 03-02-2014, 02:40 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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My arguement has merit, by that mans bible, a divorced couple are also sinners, he picks and chooses what tenets he will adhere to. The comparison is valid.
It's a deliberate obfuscation.

 
Old 03-02-2014, 02:40 PM
 
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The thing with gay activism is that its filled with lies. And these lies spread. You saw it with the bill that just failed in Arizona. The media and hollywood and others ran with outright lies. They were not even remotely honest about the bill, instead they ran with calling it the "anti-gay" law.

I even just had some clowns on Reddit mention Chick-Fil-A, and how evil it is and how no one should go there. Their reasoning is they say Chick-Fil-A donates money to groups around the world that promote death for homosexuals. That is an outright lie.

Liberals and people with these agendas will stop at nothing to get what they want. They will just make stuff up out of thin air, they deceive people willingly and have awful, false information spread.
What outright lies did gay activists, Hollywood, and the leftist media spread about the proposed law in Arizona?
 
Old 03-02-2014, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Bingo. Instead of passing the bill with a clear announcement at a press conference about what the bill actually was and what was in it, they coward to the outright lies pushed by the media. Governor Brewer should resign. I am so sick of friggin cowards
What this bill actually was is giving Businesses the ability to discriminate and deny the same service they provide to others based on religion. That is WRONG period. Brewer hasn't done many good things in office, this was one of them. The only sad thing was the fact she took a bit to think over it and didn't dismiss it outright right at the start.
 
Old 03-02-2014, 02:42 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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What if you're a nurse and Christianity offends you? Can I say I'm offended and refuse to give you your flu shot? Go somewhere else. No biggie, right?
Another obfuscation and deliberate diversion. Your point has no relevancy to this argument.
 
Old 03-02-2014, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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This is an obfuscation. Typical leftist tactic.

Your free to interpret it that way if you choose. But the Bible calls homosexuality an "abomination" and "detestable" to God. It is a sin against God himself.

Divorce was not condemned in the way homosexuality is, and people did divorce. If you want to make a case of divorce (ridiculous) then you would also have to make the same case for any sin.

But, nice try.
Lol! An abomination is also a woman wearing pants.

“The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.”
Deuteronomy 22:5
Are they going to refuse to serve women in jeans?
 
Old 03-02-2014, 02:44 PM
 
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What this bill actually was is giving Businesses the ability to discriminate and deny the same service they provide to others based on religion. That is WRONG period. Brewer hasn't done many good things in office, this was one of them. The only sad thing was the fact she took a bit to think over it and didn't dismiss it outright right at the start.
Wrong. It gave protection to religious freedom. Period.

And any business in this country should be allowed to not serve anyone for any or no reason at all. That is what freedom is. But then again, this isnt exactly a very free country anymore.
 
Old 03-02-2014, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Another obfuscation and deliberate diversion. Your point has no relevancy to this argument.
Baloney. It has every relevance.
 
Old 03-02-2014, 02:45 PM
 
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Lol! An abomination is also a woman wearing pants.

“The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.”
Deuteronomy 22:5
Are they going to refuse to serve women in jeans?
FYI, places have dress codes all the time.
 
Old 03-02-2014, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Another obfuscation and deliberate diversion. Your point has no relevancy to this argument.
In other words, "the only relevant points are the ones which allow me to discriminate, If the discrimation is againt ME, it's an obfuscation and irrelevant."
Understood.
 
Old 03-02-2014, 02:53 PM
 
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Clearly, most of you didnt even read the damn bill. Shocker.

The truth about Arizona

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The bill was roughly 998 pages shorter than much of legislation that passes in Washington. Clocking in at barely two pages, it was easy to scan for disparaging references to homosexuality, for veiled references to homosexuality, for any references to homosexuality at all.


They weren’t there. A headline from The Week declared, “There is nothing Christian about Arizona’s anti-gay bill.” It’d be more accurate to say that there was nothing anti-gay about Arizona’s anti-gay bill.


The legislation consisted of minor clarifications of the state’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which has been on the books for 15 years and is modeled on the federal act that passed with big bipartisan majorities in the 1990s and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton.


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The letter argues that, properly interpreted, the federal law that inspired the Arizona statute covers cases that don’t directly involve the government and covers businesses. So Arizona’s changes were in keeping with a law once championed by none other than Sen. Ted Kennedy.


A religious-freedom statute doesn’t give anyone carte blanche to do whatever he wants in the name of religion. It simply allows him to make his case in court that a law or a lawsuit substantially burdens his religion and that there is no compelling governmental interest to justify the burden.



I cant post the whole article. But I urge you to read it all, its not long.
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