U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 03-30-2014, 08:34 PM
 
Location: The analog world
17,086 posts, read 9,887,713 times
Reputation: 22750

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dale Cooper View Post
Yep. America the Medicated.

Pathetic.

Pregnant women getting through the day with medication and they wonder why their kids are messed up.
What the he!! are you talking about?

Edit: Never mind. I don't want to know.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-30-2014, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
23,452 posts, read 28,322,096 times
Reputation: 29049
Quote:
Originally Posted by natalie469 View Post
How is it in our water. And of course birth control affects fertility because these people take it so they don't get pregnant.
Quote:
Originally Posted by janelle144 View Post
I agree, we need to get as many chemicals out of our water and environment as possible. Plus the genetically altered plant seeds. Putting bug killers into the seeds so the crop does not fail means we are eating the bug killers with our food.
Quote:
Originally Posted by janelle144 View Post
Yes, the hormones in animals would affect early maturity. But BC is still poison and it is in our water and a lot of it. It would affect fertility and I see a lot of couples have fertility problems now.
Quote:
Originally Posted by natalie469 View Post
How does birth control affect our kids. And it's in our water???? Oh please. My personal opinion on why girls are maturing faster is the hormones we give the animals we eat. We are what we eat. Have you seen the size of chicken breasts these days! How do you think they got that way. They were not like that when I grew up. My daughter grew up as a vegetarian and matured normally. So let's not blame it on birth control.

Significant concentrations of the hormones in birth control pills are not found in drinking water:

An Assessment of Potential Exposure and Risk from Estrogens in Drinking Water

"The dietary comparison indicates that potential exposures to trace levels of total estrogens (whether from a prescribed or naturally occurring source) predicted to be in drinking water in the United States are at least 82 times lower than exposures from background concentrations of naturally occurring estrogens in the diet. Drinking water exposures are also at least 28 times less than ADIs developed to be protective of sensitive populations. Taken together, the finding of consistently large MOEs and MOSs across all lines of evidence strongly suggests that concentrations of estrogens (including prescribed estrogens) predicted by PhATE to potentially be in drinking water are not causing adverse effects in U.S. residents, including sensitive subpopulations."

So, Janelle, you can stop worrying about hormones in water. No one is having a problem with infertility due to hormones in water.

The only food animals for which hormones are used are beef. No hormones are used for poultry, dairy cattle, or pigs. Bigger breasts on chickens are the result of selectively breeding for the trait.

http://www.thepoultrysite.com/articl...-the-confusion

The growth hormones used in beef are present in only tiny quantities in the edible portion of the animal and will not cause adverse effects in humans.

The genetic modification that helps plants resist insects will have no effect on a human. It is digested like the rest of the protein in the plant. So you can stop worrying about that, too.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-30-2014, 11:53 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
23,452 posts, read 28,322,096 times
Reputation: 29049
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
Some of the things you're probably correct about. But autism, where were they hiding these kids when I was growing up.

The diagnosis was not even used in its current context until the 1940s, and no one was keeping count. General practitioners could do nothing about it, so why bother?

The kids were called "mentally retarded" or diagnosed with "schizophrenia." You never saw them. They were kept home or institutionalized.

Keeping count really did not happen until computers and insurance got involved.

Today having a diagnosis gets you extra help in school. that means parents and doctors look for a diagnosis.

You may find this commentary helpful:

The Increase in Autism Diagnoses: Two Hypotheses « Science-Based Medicine

By the way, for everyone's information, there is no evidence that vaccines cause autism. Stop vaccinating, the autism does not go away; the infectious diseases prevented by vaccines do come back.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2014, 12:06 AM
 
26,160 posts, read 15,386,185 times
Reputation: 17235
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimhcom
This article makes the case that we are damaging our own brains and that of our offspring by the poisoning of our environment for corporate profit.
I 10000000% agree!!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2014, 12:23 AM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
5,720 posts, read 8,777,308 times
Reputation: 6291
Autism is an overly diagnosed disorder nowadays. Seems like every other child is diagnosed with some form of it now ... whereas many years ago, the same kind of inattention disorders were evident, but weren't labeled as autism. If certain kids were in their own world (so to speak), didn't pay attention, and didn't display a huge amount of social skills, they still got along all right ... but they just had to work a little harder than other kids.

How about this: instead of blaming corporations, pharmaceuticals, the drinking water, etc., how about taking responsibility for your own offspring? Parents should actually try to be parents, instead of expecting the gov't/taxpayers to raise their kids, and/or subsidize all these special programs just because they may have a harder time learning or getting along with others.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2014, 12:31 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
23,452 posts, read 28,322,096 times
Reputation: 29049
Quote:
Originally Posted by Valley Native View Post
Autism is an overly diagnosed disorder nowadays. Seems like every other child is diagnosed with some form of it now ... whereas many years ago, the same kind of inattention disorders were evident, but weren't labeled as autism. If certain kids were in their own world (so to speak), didn't pay attention, and didn't display a huge amount of social skills, they still got along all right ... but they just had to work a little harder than other kids.

How about this: instead of blaming corporations, pharmaceuticals, the drinking water, etc., how about taking responsibility for your own offspring? Parents should actually try to be parents, instead of expecting the gov't/taxpayers to raise their kids, and/or subsidize all these special programs just because they may have a harder time learning or getting along with others.
Although some individuals may have both autism and inattention disorders, they are not the same thing.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2014, 12:58 AM
 
11,642 posts, read 5,942,458 times
Reputation: 1695
Quote:
Originally Posted by suzy_q2010 View Post

The only food animals for which hormones are used are beef. No hormones are used for poultry, dairy cattle, or pigs. Bigger breasts on chickens are the result of selectively breeding for the trait.
"When cow's milk is consumed by human non-infants, it behaves as a cancer-accelerator. IGF-1 is not destroyed in the pasteurization process nor during human digestion and is therefore biologically active in humans, being associated with breast, prostate, and colon cancers."

Bovine Growth Hormone: Milk does nobody good...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2014, 02:29 AM
 
9,112 posts, read 5,621,677 times
Reputation: 3853
Quote:
Originally Posted by suzy_q2010 View Post
Janelle, you can stop worrying about hormones in water. No one is having a problem with infertility due to hormones in water.

The only food animals for which hormones are used are beef. No hormones are used for poultry, dairy cattle, or pigs.

The growth hormones used in beef are present in only tiny quantities in the edible portion of the animal and will not cause adverse effects in humans.

The genetic modification that helps plants resist insects will have no effect on a human. It is digested like the rest of the protein in the plant. So you can stop worrying about that, too.
Lies ... and why do you keep doing it? It's all you do ... every stinking thread that you comment on ... lies.

I'm not going to address each one of them ... just the most obvious one!.

Growth hormones are most certainly given to dairy cattle in order to maximize milk production, and shows up in milk and other dairy products ... RECOMBINANT BOVINE GROWTH HORMONE (rBGH). This is highly controversial among HONEST researchers, which are particularly hard to locate in the United States of Deception anymore. Of course, the entire European Union has banned it .... Canada has banned it ... several other countries around the world have banned it ... but here in the good ole US of A, no problem ... pump em' up with rBGH, and watch those profits climb.

The is common knowledge, and has been the subject of heated debate for years, as well as massive protests from the research scientists not on the take, and the REAL consumer watchdog groups that are trying to get the FDA to actually do it's job for a change ... which they stubbornly continue to refuse to do.

I wish there were rules about this kind of abuse of the truth.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2014, 03:12 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
15,024 posts, read 13,360,434 times
Reputation: 4593
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimhcom View Post
The Toxins That Threaten Our Brains - The Atlantic

This article makes the case that we are damaging our own brains and that of our offspring by the poisoning of our environment for corporate profit.
Fluoride is also a toxin and should have also been on the list. Putting it in municipal water supplies has got to stop.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2014, 03:37 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
25,393 posts, read 30,766,309 times
Reputation: 14583
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimhcom View Post
The Toxins That Threaten Our Brains - The Atlantic

This article makes the case that we are damaging our own brains and that of our offspring by the poisoning of our environment for corporate profit.
I have no doubt that we poison our own environments. I doubt the stuff in say bathroom cleaner is good to inhale. Personally, I wonder how much of the increase in ADD, autism and cancers is due to all the products we use to clean our environments. Between central air and heating, we use these products in a closed environment most of the year. Most people have carpet in their houses as well and anything you track in from the outside, like pesticides and fertilizers from your lawn can get down deep and break down over time. We also kill germs on every surface including our hands leaving our immune systems that were developed to be very active with little to fight on a regular basis. And then there's all the processed foods we eat. I'm pretty sure we weren't intended to live this way.

I find it interesting when some study tries to point to one thing like the thread on Fluoridated water. Seriously folks so much has changed in the last 100 years that it's hard to separate what effect anything has. We slather chemicals on our skin (sunscreen, anti aging creams), clean our houses with who knows what that we inhale and absorb through our skin as we use the products, use hand sanitizers like they're going out of style, breathe residue from the chemicals we use outside and inside our homes, breathe the by products of manufacturing the products we use every day (that new car smell is plasticizers and mold release agents degassing into your closed environment) and then eat crap. I'd be surprised if we weren't poisoning ourselves.

100 years ago, your house was only closed up in the winter when it was cold and then it wasn't sealed very well so the air exchange was good. Today we have high efficiency furnaces (I have one) that draw their make up air from the outside to minimize air exchange and central air in the summer so the house is rarely open to air out. I'm sure lots of toxins accumulate in our environments as a result of closing ourselves up like we do and using the products we do. Is the smell of bleach really something we should like in our homes? Or those air fresheners we use? What are they made of? What are you breathing when you use them? Scented candles? Incense? Furniture cleaner? Carpet cleaner? Oven cleaner? What are we bringing into our now closed up homes in the name of cleanliness, killing germs and making our environment smell good?

And you can add medicine waste to the list too. How much medication enters our waste water stream because people pee it out or dump unused medications? This stuff ends up in our environment.

Last edited by Ivorytickler; 03-31-2014 at 03:50 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:54 AM.

© 2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top