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Old 04-11-2014, 07:23 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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Africans were not selling "their people" to Europeans. They were selling their enemies in the next town or next tribal territory to the Europeans.
Their enemies in the next town over in the next tribe were also Africans which means they were indeed "their people". Your attempts to dismiss facts are pathetic.

 
Old 04-11-2014, 07:23 AM
 
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They have a court ordered injunction that allows them to go take the cattle. Bundy had ample warning to move them, and he's refused every step of the way. Anyone pretending this is the federal government picking on some hapless farmer and overusing their force is just being purposefully ignorant and disingenuous.

When your child continuously ignores your orders, ignores your passive threats of punishment, at some point you swoop in, spank his ass and take his toys away.
Great post. Ignore the courts and you will get the horn.
 
Old 04-11-2014, 07:25 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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They have a court ordered injunction that allows them to go take the cattle. Bundy had ample warning to move them, and he's refused every step of the way. Anyone pretending this is the federal government picking on some hapless farmer and overusing their force is just being purposefully ignorant and disingenuous.

When your child continuously ignores your orders, ignores your passive threats of punishment, at some point you swoop in, spank his ass and take his toys away.


So, the federal government came in and took land he has been homesteading since 1877, because of a tortoise.

He refused to let them have it.
 
Old 04-11-2014, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Feds charged with killing cattle in Nevada range war


They are not prepared to hold and transport to auction.
Sorry but not one credible news outlet is currently reporting this.


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I see this as the same thing the British were doing, when they would come confiscate property and livestock, to pay the tax, prior to the war for our independence.

Give me liberty, or give me death. Only an American has the right to live by that motto.
God Bless this man.
Bundy is a thief stealing from all of us.
 
Old 04-11-2014, 07:26 AM
 
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Rare steak eater, but nice try.
Strange the mods are deleting posts since they deleted the one you replied to.

Nice treating us like we are children and can't discuss the real reasons BLM might be doing this!
 
Old 04-11-2014, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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The hypocrisy of the left is overwhelming in this thread.

It's okay for some people to break the law...hell, let's give them "amnesty" to stay here, illegally.

But a rancher, whose family has been there forever? NO! Threaten him with guns and dogs, take his cattle away to be slaughtered, and give us another Waco. Make up a story about how it's about fees, try to cover up that it's about a turtle.

I saw a little blip earlier that some militia were gearing up to go to NV to stand with the rancher. Good. These Feds are out of control.
 
Old 04-11-2014, 07:31 AM
 
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Sorry but not one credible news outlet is currently reporting this.




Bundy is a thief stealing from all of us.
Yet, it's really not about the money or are you missing that it's about the tortoise. Which, many of these tortoises were released due to being pets and the sanctuary is closing in Dec of this year.

Nevada Native Animals

Somehow the tortoise wasn't one of the animals they seem to know.
 
Old 04-11-2014, 07:33 AM
 
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Yes, all two of them.
Actually, numbers range from 2% to as high as 10% in some areas of free blacks owned black slaves.

The counterpoint is, "well at least some of those owned family members."

The counter-counter point is, why would they just not free their family member, as would be their right with respect to their own property?






That slavery was limited PRIMARILY to Africans is the source of consternation and legacy of problems for the community as a whole in the 100 years after slavery. But the shame of slavery during that time period extended to exploitation of anyone those with the resources could exploit. Including, a far far less number of white slaves:

They Were White and They Were Slaves: The Untold History of the Enslavement of Whites in Early America: Michael Hoffman: 9780929903057: Amazon.com: Books
 
Old 04-11-2014, 07:35 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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Actually, numbers range from 2% to as high as 10% in some areas of free blacks owned black slaves.

The counterpoint is, "well at least some of those owned family members."

The counter-counter point is, why would they just not free their family member, as would be their right with respect to their own property?






That slavery was limited PRIMARILY to Africans is the source of consternation and legacy of problems for the community as a whole in the 100 years after slavery. But the shame of slavery during that time period extended to exploitation of anyone those with the resources could exploit. Including, a far far less number of white slaves:

They Were White and They Were Slaves: The Untold History of the Enslavement of Whites in Early America: Michael Hoffman: 9780929903057: Amazon.com: Books
You might as well walk outside, find the biggest tree in the area and explain all of this to it instead.
 
Old 04-11-2014, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Yet, it's really not about the money or are you missing that it's about the tortoise. Which, many of these tortoises were released due to being pets and the sanctuary is closing in Dec of this year.

Nevada Native Animals

Somehow the tortoise wasn't one of the animals they seem to know.
The page you linked to states, "Here are the American Indian names of six native animals of Nevada." It doesn't say those are the only native animals of Nevada.

The Desert Tortoise is the state reptile of Nevada.
Desert tortoise - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

State reptile. LOL
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