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Old 05-07-2014, 06:49 AM
 
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This experiment which was meant to decrease organized crime has resulted in an increase in organized crime families from 3 in 1988 to 93 today.
What's the rationale for attributing that to legalization?



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Between 2001, the year the decriminalization law went into effect, and 2007, continued consumption of narcotics rose, in absolute terms, by 66%.
You can find similar statistics here in the US. 20 years ago heroin was almost non existent in my area and most parts of the country.
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:13 AM
 
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From what I've read the crime of selling out of state cigarettes is only increasing in place like NY.
That's driven by the ridiculous amount of taxes. A carton of cigarettes in NYC is about $120+, you can drive 1/2 hour to PA and pay $60. Furthermore loose tobacco is not taxed like cigarettes in PA, I can make a carton of cigarettes with my manual machine in about 1/2 hour for $10. I can make a carton which is ten packs for less than what they are charging for a single pack. If I were to sell them for half the price they charge in NYC I can stick about $60 in my pocket. That's not chump change, you could make more than three figures a year sitting in front of TV making cigarettes for a few hours a day.... at least until you get caught.

You aren't going to decrease crime if the taxes keep the prices the same. Legalization has to be combined with lowering of the cost.
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:14 AM
 
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You can find similar statistics here in the US. 20 years ago heroin was almost non existent in my area and most parts of the country.
Heroin has been killing its consumers for decades now.
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:16 AM
 
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Yes. I do. As history has shown, prohibition does not work.
And, nonhibition?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7fO3bzPeBQ
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:17 AM
 
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I'm convinced the number of people requiring public assistance would go up exponentially if all illegal drugs were made legal. I am also convinced that the rate of traffic accidents and injuries would increase. Crime over all would increase as the number of addicts increased.
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:20 AM
 
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Why would anyone "need" to do drugs.
There is some pretty convincing evidence that marijuana can be helpful. Cancer patients for example, increased appetite and it helps with side effects related to chemotherapy. I know someone was using it during chemo and they said it helped a lot. They asked their doctor beforehand and his advice was "I'm not telling you yes and I'm not telling you no."
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:23 AM
 
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Heroin has been killing its consumers for decades now.
Yes it has but there has been a tremendous increase in it's usage since the mid nineties. It's much more powerful product than what was available before. .
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:24 AM
 
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That's really funny considering that now that pot is legal in Colorado, the Colombians are trying to get in on the business. Isn't part of the point of legalizing drugs is that people can buy it locally and legally and not have to be forced to bring their demand across borders? That's not lowering crime very much is it?
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:25 AM
 
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Yes it has but there has been a tremendous increase in it's usage since the mid nineties. It's much more powerful product than what was available before. .
As far as drugs go, its inexpensive. I do not support the legalization of heroin.
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:26 AM
 
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Classic. LOL
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