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Old 05-14-2014, 04:25 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Fancy-Schmancy View Post

Funny how the Right never complains about 'government interference' when it comes to controlling what food the poor eat.
When someone else is paying for it, you will be controlled. This is part of the misfortune of being poor.

 
Old 05-14-2014, 04:39 PM
 
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It's not dishonest. Families are getting double benefits for the free meals their kids are getting at school. Their food stamp benefits are not reduced accordingly. Meanwhile, they are the ones who struggle the most with obesity. Think about that...

How does it ignore reality? Explain why you believe so.

Okay, I'll bite. Where does it explain how nutritional needs are reduced according to how many free meals children receive at school?

Cite exactly where it states that.
Seriously?

The food stamp program is based on the prices and foods that real families consume and pay for food.

These families who are living in the world and some of whom's children are already participating in the national school lunch program and how much they spend for food.

It is based on how much money they actually spend on food that is how the program's allotment is designed.

So there is no double dipping because the program isn't designed in the manner you made up.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 04:45 PM
 
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Seriously?

The food stamp program is based on the prices and foods that real families consume and pay for food.
Exactly. There is no mention of some families needing less food because their children get free meals in school.

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It is based on how much money they actually spend on food
To get the amount of total required nutrition. Again, there is no mention of any reduction to account for free meals received at school.

If you disagree, cite specifically where the accounting for free school meals is discussed in the link you provided.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Originally Posted by Iamme73 View Post
Seriously?

The food stamp program is based on the prices and foods that real families consume and pay for food.

These families who are living in the world and some of whom's children are already participating in the national school lunch program and how much they spend for food.

It is based on how much money they actually spend on food that is how the program's allotment is designed.

So there is no double dipping because the program isn't designed in the manner you made up.
The "S" in SNAP stands for SUPPLEMENTAL.
It's in addition to their own money they are supposed to be spending.
It's not supposed to be their sole means of buying food.

This whole "free food" for the poor is way out of hand.
The poor aren't starving..they are obese for crying out loud.

Maybe we're giving them too much free food ?
 
Old 05-14-2014, 05:04 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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yeah god forbid the property taxes i pay go to feed my children at school!
I rather they go to some Israeli commando.
Are you so sure that "YOUR" children would qualify? An acquaintance of mine who has a child in the New Braunfels, Tex school district told me that his girl was denied a lunch because she was behind in the payments. When he went to confront the school, he raised holy hell when he saw the illegals' kids were eating for free, but made his girl starve.



Originally Posted by katzpaw

This is new/news to me:

Supper is served at San Elizario High School - El Paso, Texas

After-school meals are now being served to high school students who are involved in after school activities, San Elizario Independent School District (Texas) officials said. Supper is offered at 4 p.m. and ends at 4:30 p.m. at the high school's cafeteria. The program, which began May 1, is funded through a reimbursement grant from the U.S. Department of Agriculture Child and Adult Care Food Program. Students who opt to stay for supper get a $3.21 meal for free through the grant reimbursement program.

Afterschool Programs | Food and Nutrition Service - Child and Adult Care Food Program (CACFP)
Child and Adult Care Food Program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I'd be curious to know how many of kids are illegals or kids of illegals.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 05:06 PM
 
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Think about the quality of that meal at $3.21 a serving.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 05:13 PM
 
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This whole "free food" for the poor is way out of hand.
The poor aren't starving..they are obese for crying out loud.

Maybe we're giving them too much free food ?
I've raised that point, as well.

The poor are the group with the highest rate of obesity. You don't get that way by not having enough to eat.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 05:14 PM
 
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
Exactly. There is no mention of some families needing less food because their children get free meals in school.

To get the amount of total required nutrition. Again, there is no mention of any reduction to account for free meals received at school.

If you disagree, cite specifically where the accounting for free school meals is discussed in the link you provided.

The Thrifty Food Plan (TFP), a fundamental part of the U.S. food guidance system and the basis for maximum food stamp allotments


Is based on the 2005 Dietary Guidelines for Americans as well as the 2005 MyPyramid Food Guidance System.

Uses the prices low-income people paid for many foods.

Uses the latest data on food consumption, nutrient content, and food prices: the 2001-
2002 National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey and 2001-2002 Food Price
Database.


Offers a more realistic reflection of the time available for food preparation, especially
with increased expectations for work in assistance programs. Hence, it allows more
prepared foods and requires somewhat fewer preparations from scratch.



This is simple and plan the program is not designed based on your fantasy.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 05:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Iamme73 View Post
The Thrifty Food Plan (TFP), a fundamental part of the U.S. food guidance system and the basis for maximum food stamp allotments


Is based on the 2005 Dietary Guidelines for Americans as well as the 2005 MyPyramid Food Guidance System.

Uses the prices low-income people paid for many foods.

Uses the latest data on food consumption, nutrient content, and food prices: the 2001-
2002 National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey and 2001-2002 Food Price
Database.

Offers a more realistic reflection of the time available for food preparation, especially
with increased expectations for work in assistance programs. Hence, it allows more
prepared foods and requires somewhat fewer preparations from scratch.
It's based on total nutritional need. Again, THERE IS NO MENTION WHATSOEVER of an accounting of and adjustment for the free meals kids get at schools.

If you disagree, cite specifically where such accounting is mentioned.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 05:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
The "S" in SNAP stands for SUPPLEMENTAL.
It's in addition to their own money they are supposed to be spending.
It's not supposed to be their sole means of buying food.

This whole "free food" for the poor is way out of hand.
The poor aren't starving..they are obese for crying out loud.

Maybe we're giving them too much free food ?
Your whole post was dedicated to a point I didn't make. SMH.

Yet you contradict yourself, you correctly write that the program is designed to be supplemental, then you go and say this free food for the poor out of hand, but of course the program is designed as supplemental which means that's how it works, the more income they earn the more food they have to buy.

And your point about the poor aren't starving and being obese is yet another moving target is meaningless.

But for 1 in 6 people in the United States, hunger is a very real struggle. Many people believe that the problems associated with hunger are confined to small pockets of society, certain areas of the country, or certain neighborhoods, but the reality is much different.

Right now, millions of Americans are at risk of hunger. These are often hard-working adults, children and seniors who simply cannot always make ends meet and may be forced to go without food.

It’s time to educate ourselves about the causes of hunger in America.


Hunger Facts | Feeding America
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