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Facts bob....yes, they suck for the left and you...
Hmm, my premium did go down, by about $900/year. Of course, that plan was eliminated so now I have a high deductible so instead of $30/visit I pay everything up to the maximum annual of $6,000. Assuming the same number of visits as usual I'll end up spending about $2,000/year more than before the ACA.
So we are complaining about the cost of HC and then add more layers of bureaucracy, increasing costs and decreasing care, then complain about increasing care and deflect the discussion to "evil conservatives".
The ACA will only increase costs because it is written by dreamers who have no idea of the real world. Hell, congress didn't even read it.
One example:
The repayment to care givers is becoming less and less, and there are now very stiff penalties for issues that occur under care, whether or not they were caused by the care giver only that they were found while under their care. In other words, Patient X comes into the hospital with a raging infection of VRE or MRSA and is not picked up until 3 days into their visit. It becomes the hospitals fault, and treatment is solely the responsibility of the hospital. If a patient comes in and has poor health, gets a central line or a foley catheter put in place and then gets infected... it because the hospitals fault and their reimbursement is cut to near-nil. Units have cut back significantly on central lines and catheters after this change which has affected care significantly.
What is the real issue and how to fix it?
15% of people will suck up 60% of the costs. Majority of this falls into one of four categories: elderly, obese, smokers, drinking/drug use. Do you really think we should continue care on an 88yr old smoker who weights 250lbs and smokes a pack a day and has already had a few heart attacks/strokes and now comes into the hospital for terminal care. To put it as one attending physician said, "We know they aren't going to survive, the question is whether the family will understand it. The outcome is the same, the only difference is if we spend three million dollars convincing the family."
Obama care sucks and it's expensive! I wish the NHS style public option he first put out there would have gone through. But both parties laid that to rest. RIP That's the only reason I voted for him, I don't usually vote dem. but our healthcare is so expensive and crappy I was willing to try a public option to rid it of competition and greed of the insurance companies and doctors.
WE'VE HAD AMPLE TIME TO FIX OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM WITHOUT GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION AND WE HAVE FAILED TO RANK IN THE TOP TEN COMPARED TO OTHER COUNTRIES. OUR CITIZENS COULD DO BETTER BY MOVING OUT OF OUR COUNTRY.
This is the sad fact, when left up to private insurance companies we fail in healthcare. Obamacare failed by compromising and making deals with insurance companies. Now it is also part of the problem, not the solution.
I regret my choice and have seriously given up hope for our healthcare system. I don't see any light at the end of this tunnel. I can honestly say that in this capitalistic society we've built, the only way out, is selling your soul. Capitalist run healthcare is expensive and dangerous. FACT.
Healthcare for profit keeps us under performing compared to other countries. FACT.
Obamacare didn't fix that. FACT
So we are complaining about the cost of HC and then add more layers of bureaucracy, increasing costs and decreasing care, then complain about increasing care and deflect the discussion to "evil conservatives".
The ACA will only increase costs because it is written by dreamers who have no idea of the real world. Hell, congress didn't even read it.
One example:
The repayment to care givers is becoming less and less, and there are now very stiff penalties for issues that occur under care, whether or not they were caused by the care giver only that they were found while under their care. In other words, Patient X comes into the hospital with a raging infection of VRE or MRSA and is not picked up until 3 days into their visit. It becomes the hospitals fault, and treatment is solely the responsibility of the hospital. If a patient comes in and has poor health, gets a central line or a foley catheter put in place and then gets infected... it because the hospitals fault and their reimbursement is cut to near-nil. Units have cut back significantly on central lines and catheters after this change which has affected care significantly.
What is the real issue and how to fix it?
15% of people will suck up 60% of the costs. Majority of this falls into one of four categories: elderly, obese, smokers, drinking/drug use. Do you really think we should continue care on an 88yr old smoker who weights 250lbs and smokes a pack a day and has already had a few heart attacks/strokes and now comes into the hospital for terminal care. To put it as one attending physician said, "We know they aren't going to survive, the question is whether the family will understand it. The outcome is the same, the only difference is if we spend three million dollars convincing the family."
Why not do what the other top 5 countries in healthcare have done? It's not like we don't have models of healthcare that are better than ours right in front of our faces.
Why not do what the other top 5 countries in healthcare have done? It's not like we don't have models of healthcare that are better than ours right in front of our faces.
Because I'd like to have a decent chance at fighting cancer and I like that we have access to the most amount of new pharmaceuticals in the world.
Honestly, just giving some more legal protection to Health Care Workers would go a long way to reducing unnecessary testing. Giving a firm legal backing to DNR/DNI signed legal documents, same as wills for instance, would also reduce the costs pretty significantly. Charge more for Medicare/Medicaid for those who are obese, smokers, and drug/alcoholics and you would help to cover their extra costs as well.
Because I'd like to have a decent chance at fighting cancer and I like that we have access to the most amount of new pharmaceuticals in the world.
Honestly, just giving some more legal protection to Health Care Workers would go a long way to reducing unnecessary testing. Giving a firm legal backing to DNR/DNI signed legal documents, same as wills for instance, would also reduce the costs pretty significantly. Charge more for Medicare/Medicaid for those who are obese, smokers, and drug/alcoholics and you would help to cover their extra costs as well.
We spend $50 billion dollars a year keeping medicare recipients alive for the last 60 days of their lives and $200 billion for the final two years of their lives. When Obama with bi-partisan support had legislation paying Medicare doctors for end of life counseling guess who came up with the term "Death Panels" none other than Tea Partier Sarah Palin. That was in 2009. Then in 2011 when the Independent Payment Advisory Board was enacted to control Medicare costs Palin called that a Death Panel. Republicans are now fighting the IPAB. So much for trying to reign in Medicare spending. The Republican plan for Medicare is to let it go bankrupt and then shove everyone onto exchanges in 2021 where insurance companies make the decisions on what procedures will be done and how long hospital stays are.
Smokers pay more for private insurance not so for Medicare. The ACA means tests recipients. Medicare underwrites parts B and D for couples making up to $170,000.
Didnt take long for it to be Bush and Romneys fault.
Obamacare sux, we all know it. Its going to be a single payer system before you know it, just like the VA.
But, Obamacare is off the radar now, as the Redskins name is more important, or is it Benghal, Or Iraq, Or IRS, Or Benghazi leader captured, or Fast n Furious, or blah blah blah. This country needs an enema, as we have so many problems and they all come down to Congress, Potus and the American people for allowing this to happen..Elections have consequences...
Let's see. No ACA 10 yrs of 10% premium increase per yr versu with ACA 10 yrs of 5% premium growtg per year. I would guess that would actually far exceed $2500 premium savings, don't you?
Not when premiums, like mine, almost double for the same insurance with a high deductible added to those increases you mention.
"40,000 Americans who die each year from not having health insurance"
SOURCE!
Tax cuts don't grow the debt.
Spending grows the debt.
Revenue increased after the Bush tax cuts.
Obama continued the Bush tax cuts.
"The wondrous contradictions of the Clinton administration's China policy were on full display last week. On Monday President Clinton announced an "all-out" campaign to lobby Congress to pass permanent most-favored-nation status for China."
But in your fight to make democrats loose elections, your political manipulation left out certain facts.
Republicans in congress 100% supported Clinton's free trade deal. After Clinton signed the trade deal republicans in congress had a party. The republicans in congress broke open a huge fortune cookie, the fortune said "Free trade with China will bring us all great fortune."
Chad.
"Dr. Stephanie J. Woolhandler advocates guaranteed access to health care for all members of society, including the forty-two million Americans currently without medical insurance. In 1986 she helped found Physicians for a National Health Program, a not-for-profit organization for physicians, medical students, and other health care professionals who advocate a national health insurance program."
But you can't deny the fact that on the three occasions that Republicans controlled both houses of Congress, the budget was either in balance or the running deficits declined and the workforce was either at full employment or existing unemployment declined.
In spite of their obvious and numerous faults, they have an excellent track record on the economy.
So you want to use the bad outcomes of Obamacare to help republicans win elections. But what about the many Americans that were hurt by Obamacare? And what are the chances of republicans abolishing Obamacare? Slim to none.
Republicans simply use Obamacare as a political weapon. But the fact is every industrialized country on this planet has a healthcare system like Obamacare. And conservatives refuse to do their part to fine tune Obamacare, and conservatives refuse to care about the 40,000 Americans who die each year from not having health insurance.
Tax cuts like those decrease government revenues, grow our national debt, and give the rich more money to build US factories in Asia.
Why not get those tax revenues from the rich, and then use some of that money and help those hurt by Obamacare?
And then have conservatives fine tune Obamacare.
BAd outcomes? Seriously?
The whole thing is bad.
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