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The majority of their populations speak Spanish. It's not necessarily because they're illegals or anything. I have a friend, American-born, married a Mexican man, and before he became a citizen here, they both lived in Mexico for many years. So even though English was her first language, she once in a great while has to think of something in Spanish before she can remember it in English.
Your friend lived IN Mexico. She did the RIGHT thing to learn Spanish between being able to take care of business AND respect the Mexican people in their country.
Those of the bleeding brain conservative mindset are simply a deluded lot who have failed miserably to comprehend the fact that America will persist into to the future, perhaps to a thousand years and beyond, and in that time they expect things to look just like they did in 1962...
North America, the land mass, is a very different looking place than it was just 500 years ago, and yet some actually expect this changing to come to a halt for the fact that they want it to. Oh they will holler and shout the praises of their favorite bleeding brain conservative leaders who tell them about the evils of the Spanish language being spoken, or about the minimum wage as another evil, or worse yet, the notion that we all just need our own country in order that no one need be offended by any diversity.
These folks are getting old for the most part and I'm guessing that like most of our elder conservative populace they feel a fear of change in ways we could never imagine. They have so little faith in mankind and such a large measure of faith in their political leaders, this is their folly, and this will be what tears apart a nation not a foreign language. The good news is that this group will be making an exit shortly, and like those who loved the confederacy, the KKK, the world before civil rights legislation, Native Americans, and their precious Anglo-ness, their numbers will be diminished and their complaining a mere whisper.
I am a young Republican and it seems like the "Old Guard" are oblivious to the changing demographics, we can still be conservatives and also welcome a more diverse membership. We need to be more welcoming of the bilingualism, ethnic minorities, homosexuals, women, etc.
UPR Professor Jaime Benson has written a number of articles in the Puerto Rican newspaper El Vocero (which more or less serves as the GOP mouthpiece on the island) on why the Republican Party needs to evolve with the changing demographics. He says that if we don't change and stop the anti-Hispanic mentality we will become a one party nation ruled by the Democratic Party.
When we constantly attack a language and it's speakers it should come as no surprise that they don't want to to join our party ... even though many of them hold the same beliefs that we do.
Your friend lived IN Mexico. She did the RIGHT thing to learn Spanish between being able to take care of business AND respect the Mexican people in their country.
Quite right! What's being asked of Latin Americans is the same thing we've asked from immigrants from other continents. LEARN English!
Quite right! What's being asked of Latin Americans is the same thing we've asked from immigrants from other continents. LEARN English!
One thing is getting people to learn English. Another is being an ******* about it, and practically all the Nativists on the thread are being *******s about it
One thing is getting people to learn English. Another is being an ******* about it, and practically all the Nativists on the thread are being *******s about it
Flip it around and the Mexicans IN Mexico would be pretty damn pissed if 1 of us went there, tried what many Hispanic people try to pull in the US and the Mexican people would be 100 percent right.
I am a young Republican and it seems like the "Old Guard" are oblivious to the changing demographics, we can still be conservatives and also welcome a more diverse membership. We need to be more welcoming of the bilingualism, ethnic minorities, homosexuals, women, etc.
UPR Professor Jaime Benson has written a number of articles in the Puerto Rican newspaper El Vocero (which more or less serves as the GOP mouthpiece on the island) on why the Republican Party needs to evolve with the changing demographics. He says that if we don't change and stop the anti-Hispanic mentality we will become a one party nation ruled by the Democratic Party.
When we constantly attack a language and it's speakers it should come as no surprise that they don't want to to join our party ... even though many of them hold the same beliefs that we do.
I'd agree but; it's on the Hispanics and "minorities" to play by OUR rules in the US. If that's insulting to them; they can just leave. The Italians, Japanese, Chinese, Irish, Germans, Spanish from Spain, even Black people once Jim Crow was stopped all tried to blend in; NOT like la raza.
I am a young Republican and it seems like the "Old Guard" are oblivious to the changing demographics, we can still be conservatives and also welcome a more diverse membership. We need to be more welcoming of the bilingualism, ethnic minorities, homosexuals, women, etc.
UPR Professor Jaime Benson has written a number of articles in the Puerto Rican newspaper El Vocero (which more or less serves as the GOP mouthpiece on the island) on why the Republican Party needs to evolve with the changing demographics. He says that if we don't change and stop the anti-Hispanic mentality we will become a one party nation ruled by the Democratic Party.
When we constantly attack a language and it's speakers it should come as no surprise that they don't want to to join our party ... even though many of them hold the same beliefs that we do.
What is this anti-Hispanic mentality? Please describe it. Is being opposed to illegal immigration being anti-Hispanic, um no. Is holding a political debate in English being anti-Hispanic, um no since one has to know English to vote and only citizens can vote.
If the changing demographics are due to illegal immigration should the GOP embrace that, um no. Where is the GOP not bracing minorities? Homosexuals don't want to embrace the GOP because they oppose gay marriage (many are ok with a civil union, however). Should the GOP change what they believe in just to pander to them, um no. Since when isn't the GOP not welcoming women? Do they have to be pro-abortion to welcome women? A lot of accusations but with nothing to back them up with.
Flip it around and the Mexicans IN Mexico would be pretty damn pissed if 1 of us went there, tried what many Hispanic people try to pull in the US and the Mexican people would be 100 percent right.
I don't give a **** about Mexico. I don't live in Mexico. And, you are quite wrong. There are hundreds of thousands of Americans, if not more, living down there and don't speak much Spanish and they don't really care. People in Puerto Rico don't really care if Americans move down there and don't speak in Spanish. Both places hire staff to cater to English speaking clientele in areas where English speakers are highly concentrated Where did this myth originate that Mexico is some ultra nationalist state that bans (either de facto or de jure) people from speaking all languages that aren't indigenous Mexican or Spanish? Good grief
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What is this anti-Hispanic mentality? Please describe it. Is being opposed to illegal immigration being anti-Hispanic, um no. Is holding a political debate in English being anti-Hispanic, um no since one has to know English to vote and only citizens can vote.
If the changing demographics are due to illegal immigration should the GOP embrace that, um no. Where is the GOP not bracing minorities? Homosexuals don't want to embrace the GOP because they oppose gay marriage (many are ok with a civil union, however). Should the GOP change what they believe in just to pander to them, um no. Since when isn't the GOP not welcoming women? Do they have to be pro-abortion to welcome women? A lot of accusations but with nothing to back them up with.
One thing is getting people to learn English. Another is being an ******* about it, and practically all the Nativists on the thread are being *******s about it
I simply believe in "When in Rome, do as the Romans do".
I simply believe in "When in Rome, do as the Romans do".
So do I, hence I've done what I've done. But, let's not overlook the fact that a lot of the assimilation desires going on have a lot to do with fear rather than wanting to see the immigrants succeed. As I keep saying, there's one way to be nice about it, and another to be a prick about it. If the RWNJs want foreigners to assimilate so bad, why don't they do what Germany, France, South Korea, and Japan have and set up assimilation schools where ALL foreigners go to full-time classes for free or very reduced cost where they learn intensive language instruction and the culture of the country they are living in? Oh yeah. that's right, it's the American way to want want want from the government and not have to pay for it .
Either you guys (not singling you out, CamaroGuy, I'm talking in general) are willing to pony up the dough to set up these special schools, or you all need to stop whining like spoiled children
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