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Ah, Americans and their lousy grasp of history and geography.
"Spanish, also called Castilian, is a Romance language that originated in the Castile region of Spain.
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Spanish is a part of the Ibero-Romance group of languages, which evolved from several dialects of common Latin in Iberia after the collapse of the Western Roman Empire in the fifth century."
It's really cool how you can brush up on centuries of the history of languages on Wiki and present such as if you had know it all along - especially when quoting from the article.
It would have been nice to see your own thoughts in the mix.
If the language originates from the Castile region, what did they speak in any other region?
Off topic .... We're not talking about these things remember ? At least that's what you said to me a few posts back.
I answered a question. Don't like it, tough. I didn't mention any remarks that another poster made under a different topic as you did and then try to twist their meaning of it as you did.
most countries around the world are bilingual and have areas where different languages are spoken
(france, netherlands, russia, sweden, UK, spain, switzerland, belgium, canada, colombia, argentina, brazil, china, india, south africa shoot even mexico!!!)
I Hhave yet to understand why some Americans whine and complain SO MUCH about spanish!
I mean is it really that horrible if some people from your country speak another language other than the language YOU particularly speak??????
LEARN A SECOND DAMN LANGUAGE!!! MOST PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD SPEAK TWO OR THREE, so thatyou can at least open your narrow mind!
It's due to so many Spanish speakers in this country either refusing to learn or speak English and illegal immigration from south of our border that is creating a resentment towards Spanish. Does that clear it up for you now?
There is no reason for native English speaking Americans to learn Spanish or any other language. It's not that useful in most cases. Oh, so not you are demanding that we do? We are supposed to follow suit with what other countries do? Since when?
They aren't trying to push their customs and language nationally are they ?
Exactly! The Amish are a small centralized community that sticks to themselves. They aren't spreading and growing all over the country demanding we learn their customs and language. Big difference!
hmmm since when has the US been composed of exclusively natives and then mexicans came in as a foreign element?
YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY IGNORANT OF YOUR OWN COUNTRY'S HISTORY!!! THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A TIME IN AMERICA'S HSTORY WHERE IMMIGRATION HASNT PLAYED A HUGE ROLE!
Immigration or illegal immigration? Big difference!
Actually, if you live in Miami, and work in international finance dealing with Latin America, OR if you work for the media companies such as Univision or Sony Disques, you are at a disadvantage if you aren't bilingual in English/Spanish. And those include high level jobs.
But, but, but we are told that Hispanics are assimilating. That would include learning English so why would Spanish grow here? That makes no sense. Why do I get the feeling that is what you want though?
This country belongs to all of its "citizens" regardless of race, ethnicity or national origin. It doesn't belong to illegal aliens and they have no right to come here for economic opportunity. Have you heard of immigration laws at all? All countries have them including Mexico. If we allowed in every impoverished person in the world seeking economic opportunity we would have an additional 2 billion people living in this country. Is that what you want? Foreigners need to seek changes in their own countries. We aren't the employment agency or flop house to the world.
What world do you live in that makes you believe that a border will serve to deflect the mobility of those who have so little they actually risk life and limb to get that coveted crap job in the US? Do you think that fence and those border patrol agents are really going to stop the flow of workers to a nation that expresses it's desire to hire at the lowest wage possible? "Seek changes"? What do you think the average foreigner can achieve to that end??? He can just run over the border and take his chances. That's ALL he can do..
This is simply aggregate econ. 101 manifest as a "problem". At some point don't be all shocked when the upper class of those who love these crossers and their destitution makes citizens of all those who want to come here for work a reality. Money flows in all directions now, borders are simply a nuisance to those who really run America..
The "new" bracero program is more than likely just around the corner, so that will make happy campers of all of you who think this friction is about illegal immigration. You will live in a much different nation now, a global player with borders can't get that thing of "labor competition" out of their head, because we don't like it won't change things much.
For what it's worth.....What have you ever done that has affected national OR international policy??? Think about labor collectives if you really give a damn about the people who are coming here in hopes of making a good living only to find another work scam that steals their labor for peanuts..Together workers may get something going, hunger on two sides of a border serves those who make the rules.
Well, a person can remain in denial of the fact that a nation's past is always relevant to any current views, but, what would be the reason? It's obvious in your case that the past is somehow seen by you as your personal domain of debate instructionals, but, it just aint so..And while we're at it, attempting to change the nature of a debate, "hating white's past" shows a weakness of one's own convictions, failing to make any headway in your attempt to persuade us of your superior position you felt the need to deflect and twist, complete with your histrionics of rolling eyes..
You have no real complaint here beyond your incessant need to whine, your posts for the most part reflect your nonsensical characterization of what America could look like if we all would simply allow you to show us the way to the Nirvana of a dimwitted notion of democracy. Democracy=inclusiveness..And by extension, the languages of all of us in America, times are changing, and you don't like these changes...That's the long AND short of your complaint.
Wrapping oneself in the flag is simply a way for some to get others to think they have a "higher calling" than just their own selfish goals. Those who fear for the loss of their American-ness are fools, and worse, they are essentially cowards who would deny others an opportunity to express themselves any way they choose. This isn't about right or wrong, you'd love to argue that it is but the truth here is that you are attempting to persuade us to believe in selfishness masquerading as a form of patriotism.
I see, so any opinion that you don't agree with is a whine but your opinion isn't? I don't like the language change in this country due to unassimilation and illegal immigration. Our demographics shouldn't change due to massive illegal immigration either. It is neither a natural or lawful change. I would say it is justified to object. What country in the world would want their national language or identifying culture changed or diluted in that manner? NONE!
I am a patriotic American and I am not masquerading as one but you demonize it as wrapping myself in our flag? My goals aren't selfish they are in the best interests of this country and its citizens. Piece of advice one more personal attack directed towards me and you will be reported. Adults debate with civility not childish insults and personal attacks even if they don't agree on the issues.
We have much better living conditions then where they came from.
Their kids can go to school, eat decent meals, get health care, etc.
These third world countries have little to nothing for them.
And they know they won't be sent back.
Even those with money come over here just to have their kids born on US soil so their kids have dual citizenship which can serve their kids well in the future.
All at the expense of the taxpayer's jobs and taxes. I guess feeding our own families is irrelevant.
Fact is that the United States is the second largest Latin American nation, we have more Spanish speakers than Spain itself and second only to Mexico. This isent going to change, we will have to adapt to this reality.
Here in New York our Republican gubernatorial candidate is going around speaking Spanish at events in heavily Hispanic communities.
This isent 1914 anymore where the only Spanish speakers were confined to Puerto Rico and the southwestern border states ...
You're right it's 2014 now with millions of unassimilating Spanish speakers along with millions of Spanish speaking illegals. And we should embrace that? It will change once illegal immigration takes its full toll on this country. Many of them will go back home where they belong. Now that's the reality.
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We are supposed to follow suit with what other countries do? Since when?
