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CDC contained it? I don't think so! And I really find it hard to believe there will be no more cases here in the US related to the outbreak in Africa.
There could well be more cases here in the USA, particularly if Ebola spreads. Hence, the need to contain it within western Africa.
I had mentioned before that Ebola may not be as deadly as believed. It certainly is so to the people of western Africa, where clean water and clean facilities is the exception rather than the rule.
Yet the success rate of recovery of those treated here in the United States is heartening (to have all, save for Mr. Duncan, recover, is amazing, and should not have happened if it had a true mortality rate of up to 80 percent). As one doctor noted, hydration is key. I also suspect our better immune systems also help.
The last Ebola patient in the U.S. is reported cured:
"The U.S. is now free of known Ebola cases. Only two people have been infected in the United States and the 21-day monitoring period is almost over for Spencer’s contacts; it will end Thursday."
Man, we were nuts - thinking this Ebola was some scary thing. This Chris from Chicago was dead right. No issue, except for poorly educated healthcare workers
man- i wish I could rep chris for being so right, and us being so wrong
There could well be more cases here in the USA, particularly if Ebola spreads. Hence, the need to contain it within western Africa.
I had mentioned before that Ebola may not be as deadly as believed. It certainly is so to the people of western Africa, where clean water and clean facilities is the exception rather than the rule.
Yet the success rate of recovery of those treated here in the United States is heartening (to have all, save for Mr. Duncan, recover, is amazing, and should not have happened if it had a true mortality rate of up to 80 percent). As one doctor noted, hydration is key. I also suspect our better immune systems also help.
The people treated here in the US, including Mr. Duncan, had all sorts of experimental drugs given to them. That's not the normal standard of care for Ebola. Certainly, I'll give credit to our health care system for being better than western Africa's, too.
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Oh come on, the 'Ebola Scare Tactic' ended with the election.
Frankly, this time, I think it was coincidental. We health care providers are not so "over it" as everyone else who has "moved on".
Man, we were nuts - thinking this Ebola was some scary thing. This Chris from Chicago was dead right. No issue, except for poorly educated healthcare workers
man- i wish I could rep chris for being so right, and us being so wrong
Ms. Pham has a BSN from Texas Christian University, a fairly high-ranked school, and Ms. Vinson's BSN is from Kent State.
Yes, by all means bring back "blame the nurses". It's a time honored approach to any health care problem. Now tell me how it can be so hard to get Ebola that no one in Duncan's household, or any of the staff that treated him in the ER (including the nurses that were blamed there) didn't get it, yet these nurses dressed as above got it through their own stupidity, you know, maybe they had a paper cut on their hands that no one else involved had, maybe they used a contaminated pen (implication they put it in their mouth, nose, what?), maybe they did this, maybe they did that. . . . The 'Time-Honored Tradition' Of Blaming The Nurse : NPR
And for those of you who say, "Frieden didn't blame the nurses, he just blamed their lack of education, etc", it sure looks to the popular press and many nursing organizations that he was blaming nurses. https://www.google.com/search?q=blam...x-a&channel=sb
We will never get this problem in hand if that approach continues.
Obviously by the rate of survivors here being treated and released...it is not the boogeyman we all feared. I think with our health standards, clean water, and great hospitals, we will overcome this. Back to ISIS......
Okay - i'm sorry. . I consider nurses and hospital in the same boat - healthcare workers.
You/your hospital did something wrong if you caught Ebola from a patient. I mean every other hospital but Texas has done it without getting their nurses sick.
So it was unprepared (under educated/wrong process) healthcare workers.
Not blaming the freaking nurse, but Ebola isn't magic. Obviously she did something wrong to catch it - how much is her fault or the hospital I don't really care (not suited up right, lax on precautions, wrong process, etc)
But obviously - ill prepared medical staff are the only threat from Ebola. With preparation and the right process, Ebola doesn't pose a threat to healthcare workers.
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"Poorly educated health care workers"? Sorry, bub, you lost my support right there!
Okay - i'm sorry. . I consider nurses and hospital in the same boat - healthcare workers.
You/your hospital did something wrong if you caught Ebola from a patient. I mean every other hospital but Texas has done it without getting their nurses sick.
So it was unprepared (under educated/wrong process) healthcare workers.
Not blaming the freaking nurse, but Ebola isn't magic. Obviously she did something wrong to catch it - how much is her fault or the hospital. (not suited up right, lax on precautions, wrong process, etc)
But obviously - ill prepared medical staff are the only threat from Ebola. With preparation and the right process, Ebola doesn't pose a threat to healthcare workers.
It's all her fault! Did you read the decision tree?
Why can no one accept that these nurses may have done nothing wrong, there may have been nothing wrong with their equipment, and yet they still got Ebola? Why do people think that everything we know about Ebola NOW is all there is to know about it, that there is no possible circumstance under which following these guidelines to the letter will still not protect you?
I'm no apologist for hospital administrators, Heaven knows, but maybe it wasn't their fault, either.
I have been in health care a long time. I've had to unlearn a lot. Maybe you will too, some day.
As for these other hospitals, heck, they all knew their patients had Ebola prior to admission. I was in Omaha when the cameraman was admitted. Now he's another one who doesn't know how he could have gotten Ebola, and the method postulated (cleaning a car) sounds far-fetched per guidelines.
"Speaking at Monday’s news conference, Dr. Ali Khan, dean of the college of public health at the University of Nebraska Medical Center, said the situation in Omaha is far different than in Dallas, where a hospital has come under criticism when a man suffering from Ebola-like symptoms was initially sent home by a hospital before being admitted three days later with worsened symptoms. “It’s a controlled situation where we know what the person has,” Dr. Khan said." U.S. Journalist With Ebola Arrives in Nebraska for Treatment - WSJ
But, when all is said and done, it's the nurses' fault.
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