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Old 10-20-2014, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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By choice, not by force. Basically it is a free shuttle service that will drive people to the polls if they are unable to get to the polls.

What you were suggesting was more of a by force comment.

Giving granny a ride to the polls because she is unable to drive isn't a nanny state thing, that is just an honorable thing to do.
It is the honorable thing to do; unlike ACORN actively buying votes for Democrats by handing out packs of cigarettes to the homeless.

Funny how liberals are anti-smoking verging on totalitarian levels, except in even year Novembers. I guess the "A Vote for a Smoke" campaign was just fine.

And has anyone seen this?

MCALLEN, Texas — A developing federal investigation has brought up allegations that a Hidalgo County Commissioner paid for votes with bags of cocaine while other politicians paid for votes also with cash, cigarettes, marijuana and beer.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-T...aine-Buy-Votes

http://www.krgv.com/news/man-goes-before-judge-in-voter-fraud-case/
Go figure, this guy is from Illinois!

Campaign Worker Accused of Offering Cocaine for Votes
http://www.krgv.com/news/campaign-wo...ine-for-votes/

Who says Texas isn't doing their fair share to bring out the vote!

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Old 10-20-2014, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Where I live.
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Plenty of states don't require a photo ID and have no voter fraud issues. So why is it necessary to disenfranchise so many voters?
Why do you keep thinking that requiring a photo ID disenfranchises "so many voters?"

Requiring a PHOTO ID (most are in the form of DLs, but other options are acceptable/available) proves that you are the person casting that vote.

Those who do not have DLs can obtain an EIC (election identification card) free of charge in Texas, and can ask for assistance if they need it.

But that's how Texas does it. I don't understand why those from other states seem to be so bothered by it.
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Old 10-20-2014, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It is the honorable thing to do; unlike ACORN actively buying votes for Democrats by handing out packs of cigarettes to the homeless.

Funny how liberals are anti-smoking verging on totalitarian levels, except in even year Novembers. I guess the "A Vote for a Smoke" campaign was just fine.

And has anyone seen this?

MCALLEN, Texas — A developing federal investigation has brought up allegations that a Hidalgo County Commissioner paid for votes with bags of cocaine while other politicians paid for votes also with cash, cigarettes, marijuana and beer.
Court Docs: Texas Democrats Accused of Using Cocaine to Buy Votes

http://www.krgv.com/news/man-goes-before-judge-in-voter-fraud-case/
Go figure, this guy is from Illinois!

Who says Texas isn't doing their fair share to bring out the vote!
ACORN? How long has ACORN been gone?

And based on the low voter turnout in Texas, it is clear they aren't doing enough to get their own residents out to vote.
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Old 10-20-2014, 03:20 PM
 
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Why do you keep thinking that requiring a photo ID disenfranchises "so many voters?"

Requiring a PHOTO ID (most are in the form of DLs, but other options are acceptable/available) proves that you are the person casting that vote.

Those who do not have DLs can obtain an EIC (election identification card) free of charge in Texas, and can ask for assistance if they need it.

But that's how Texas does it. I don't understand why those from other states seem to be so bothered by it.
If that is true, why have I never had to show a photo ID to vote?
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Old 10-20-2014, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Where I live.
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If that is true, why have I never had to show a photo ID to vote?

If WHAT is true? That doesn't follow.

The fact that YOU have never had to show photo ID to vote is meaningless.

It has nothing to do with Texas Voter ID laws. Nothing.
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Old 10-20-2014, 03:36 PM
 
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Exactly, and we as citizens should be upset over this need to keep voters apathetic. Of course Texas Republicans don't want to see voters to show up to the polls because they would be worried about the outcome of elections for Republicans.

The simple solution would be to figure out why people aren't voting that are registered to vote. This would probably lead to a simple solution that would help increase voter participation.

Seeing you are "Libertarian-ish" you should be for voter participation because that means the individual has more say in who is representing them. When people sit out elections, they are saying they wish for others to make that choice for them.
Well, can't argue with that.

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It is good that you are getting involved in local politics, the more you know how the system functions, the better you will be at making a good educated decision with who should be representing you and the people where you live.
It's dawning on me there may be more corruption in the many Main Streets than on K Street or Wall Street; and that says a lot.

It's weird otherwise politically savvy people who will speak/rant about Congress or the POTUS cannot even tell you is in charge of the zoning laws that directly affect their life every day for instance.
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Old 10-20-2014, 04:58 PM
 
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Plenty of states don't require a photo ID and have no voter fraud issues. So why is it necessary to disenfranchise so many voters?
Who says they have no voter fraud?
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Old 10-20-2014, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So a judge says 600,000 Blacks and Hispanics have no ID.
Think Progress has said there are 1.5 million Blacks and Hispanics with no ID.

The free ID's started June 2012 and included 260 mobile units.
A mere 279 EICs were issued. Two years of pushing for EIC and 279 were issued.
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Old 10-20-2014, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Who says they have no voter fraud?
"Abbott, who’s making his defense of the state’s voter ID law a centerpiece of his campaign for governor, has pursued 66 people on charges of voting irregularities since 2004. Only four cases involved someone illegally casting a ballot at a polling place where a picture ID would have prevented it.

In most cases, voter-fraud violations in Texas have involved mail-in ballots. A few involved felons who aren’t allowed to vote. Some involved an election official engaged in illegal behavior. But none of those would have been stopped by the photo ID requirement."
Few Texas voter-fraud cases would have been prevented by photo ID law, review shows | Dallas Morning News

Since 2004, only 66 people have been investigated for voting irregularities, and how many people in Texas have voted in Texas since 2004? Figure that math out and then you have your percentage change of voter fraud happening in Texas. And out of those 66 people, only 4 would have been prevented by a Photo ID.

Put one hand up, lower one finger, and you will have just four fingers up. about 6.5-7 million Texans voted in 2012 alone.
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Old 10-20-2014, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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So a judge says 600,000 Blacks and Hispanics have no ID.
Think Progress has said there are 1.5 million Blacks and Hispanics with no ID.

The free ID's started June 2012 and included 260 mobile units.
A mere 279 EICs were issued. Two years of pushing for EIC and 279 were issued.
And how much did those 260 mobile units and staffing cost the state of Texas to prevent voter fraud that rarely happens in Texas?
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