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If there was no welfare of any kind, no regulations, unlimited lobbying - a complete, corporate free for all, what would America be like? Do you think the benefits would trickle down to the masses due to limits being lifted on the innovation and entrepreneurship from great minds like Steve Wozniak, Miley Cyrus, and the Waltons, or would America turn into a plutocratic third world hell hole?
In a free market, lobbying has no purpose.
It's too bad you have no concept of what you're talking about.
If there was no welfare of any kind, no regulations, unlimited lobbying - a complete, corporate free for all, what would America be like? Do you think the benefits would trickle down to the masses due to limits being lifted on the innovation and entrepreneurship from great minds like Steve Wozniak, Miley Cyrus, and the Waltons, or would America turn into a plutocratic third world hell hole?
What would 100% of government handouts be like. Everyone would go hungry because there's no one to steal money from.
Governments break up monopolies. Like when the Hunt Brothers tried to corner the market on silver a few decades ago. Monopolies have the money and resources to destroy their competition. And if you think a company like Standard Oil didn't have the money and resources to destroy their competition then you don't understand the power these companies wielded. Corporations will also ally themselves with similar companies to limit competition, particularly small companies wanting to horn in on the business. Cartel.
No regulations means that the companies with the most money and resources can do whatever they want to destroy competition. No government needed.
Except that we know there's always an equal and opposite reaction. There are no free rides.
To the OP. You already have a prime example of this, it's called the natural world and nature. It worked just great to get you to where you are today. It worked great to evolve bacteria into "intelligent" life forms. Nature is self correcting no matter how you try to change that. You can regulate the snot out of everything that moves and in the end you will get exactly what you were always going to get. Chaos.
If there was no welfare of any kind, no regulations, unlimited lobbying - a complete, corporate free for all, what would America be like? Do you think the benefits would trickle down to the masses due to limits being lifted on the innovation and entrepreneurship from great minds like Steve Wozniak, Miley Cyrus, and the Waltons, or would America turn into a plutocratic third world hell hole?
Free Market Economics must also include Free Citizens as well.
Handing an open Free Market to Business Men to do as they please while imposing more regulations and laws on citizens in an ever increasing police state is hypocrisy to the highest degree.
To have a Truly Free Market with no government intervention, I should also be free to settle matters with others that pollute my streams and poison my air without government intervention.
I don't understand this post. Is someone suggesting that there should be no regulations?
A lot of libertarians seem to think regulations, even reasonable ones like not selling raw milk, are basically nanny state nonsense, so I'd have to say yes, I've heard such sentiments before.
If there was no welfare of any kind, no regulations, unlimited lobbying - a complete, corporate free for all, what would America be like? Do you think the benefits would trickle down to the masses due to limits being lifted on the innovation and entrepreneurship from great minds like Steve Wozniak, Miley Cyrus, and the Waltons, or would America turn into a plutocratic third world hell hole?
Depends upon whether or not the playing field is level.
Right now the edge is with the seller, the producer, the employer.
Monopolies can only exist with government protection. The free market is far better at preventing monopolies, but government steps in and typically prevents the little guy from giving the marketplace an alternative. Examples of maintained monopolies = utilities, examples of monopolies once protected but since opened up to competition = long distance and telecomm.
Everything else people think is a monopoly either isn't, or is and directly resulting from government protecting them.
Drugs are an even funnier example, because they help prove my stance rather than disprove it. In a free market, where drug companies have competition, who wins - the drug company that makes stuff that kills people, or the one who actually helps people? Do your customers wrong, and your competitor takes those customers from you. But the FDA is so onerous with regs that very few players exist in the drug market, and they pay huge sums of money to make sure the regulatory barrier keeps new competition from entering the marketplace. By doing so, they can withstand the 10-12 year process of bringing new drugs to the market, but no new competition can. Once again, the government creates and maintains the monopoly, and the monopoly pays well for them to do so. FFS, Mitt Romney may as well be a senior exec at Pfizer, and it's no shock how well they faired in the whole RomneyCare thing in MA.
These companies have no competition because they pay the government to regulate/legislate their competition out of existence. And in any endeavor, accidents happen. ~35,000 people die each year in automobile crashes, despite a few bazillion safety regs on the operators, manufacturers, road builders. You cannot legislate a perfectly safe anything.
In a world of more free markets and greater competition, bad corporate citizens who pollute, endanger, etc get crushed by competition and customers seeking a better alternative. Leviathan protects these bad actors you lost, and only makes a show of punishing them, when they actually reward them behind your back and keep them protected.
It's a mirage, a phantasm. It's kabuki theater all this regulation you think keeps you safe. Itr doesn't. It's bribes and extrotion rackets set up to keep you fooled and the big corporate cronies protected from competition. Oh yeah, the FDA wags a very stern finger at Pfizer, and then Romeny gives them RomneyCare, Obama/Pelosi/Reid give them ObamaCare, and the Supreme Court gives them Kelo v New London. Every now and then, they have to be made a scapegoat in the public eye, and behind the scenes, Leviathan is supplying hookers and blow for another shindig of corproate execs and the political weasel cronies.
You are not being protected by the regulatory state...you're being blinded and enslaved by it.
If any of the nonsense you hurled at me represents your belief set, then you are not for a free market at all. You're for government oppression and the appearance that it's for your own good, or at the very least that a bunch of tyranny is OK with you so long as now and again someone richer than you gets hollered at in the public square.
For every dollar you think regulation saves you, cronyism, graft and racketeering by the political class behind your back costs you $2 more. In every one way you think you benefit, there are two ways you are harmed.
Who do you think bankrolls Leviathan's annual media blitzes on taking more control of the Internet? Hint - it isn't small companies who benefit from free markets.
Civilization differs from the barbarism that preceded it in that civilization reflects people behaving as a member of a society rather than each person behaving as a society of one. Calls to regress from civilization to barbarism generally come from people who favor the barbaric approach to life through domination of some sort, whether that by physical force or through a modern analog, such as by exploiting an imbalance in control over the resources needed to survive. Similar markers of regression to barbarism surround other aspects of the advocacy, including an abject antipathy for moral fortitude and compassion for others, derision of knowledge and intellect, etc.
Barbarism is when a central power seeks to control society for its own purposes.
It's too bad you have no concept of what you're talking about.
There's never been a "free" market. Lobbying would have no purpose because those with the most wealth or capital would just be able to take what they want.
Barbarism is when a central power seeks to control society for its own purposes.
Or, in plainer words, what you seek.
Nope. No need to lie or twist definitions, just makes you look weak and uninformed.
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