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Nothing but a bunch of rubbish as an a excuse to rant again about your hated "right wingers."
In other words, you don't have a moral defense for the moral repudiation against the corruption you like, so you just try to make it seem like the words weren't posted.
The beauty of this country is you have different states with different laws and priorities. If you want to live in regulation central, go to NY, if you want less reglated society, go to Texas, etc. The South should make their own choices (provided they don't violate the Constitution) and the rest of the country should accept it.
The South should make their own choices (provided they don't violate the Constitution) and the rest of the country should accept it.
Just like the South made its own choices prior to 1865, you mean - right? Those choices didn't violate the Constitution then, and some of the choices the South is making now, which are the focus of controversies, are cases where the South is failing to assure Equal Protection under the Law.
Just like the South made its own choices prior to 1865, you mean - right? Those choices didn't violate the Constitution then, and some of the choices the South is making now, which are the focus of controversies, are cases where the South is failing to assure Equal Protection under the Law.
What is happening now that is remotely aggriegious as slavery...Nothing! ( Although one could argue that abortion is)
Why should other states get to dictate to the south how their states should be run? How would you like it if southern states dictated to California & New York how they should be run?
What is happening now that is remotely aggriegious as slavery...Nothing!
You are correct that denying marriage rights to homosexuals isn't as egregious as slavery, but neither was denying fair treatment in employment to veterans of the Viet Nam era, yet our nation rightfully recognized that justice demanded such fair treatment.
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Why should other states get to dictate to the south how their states should be run?
Firstly, other states aren't dictating to the south how their states should be run. Rather, it is the nation doing that, as a whole, and doing so because the Constitution says, "Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State." That establishes that if you want your marriage, licensed by your home state, recognized and respected when you travel or move to another state, that your home state must recognize and respect the marriages licensed by other states, when people married in other states travel or move to your state.
Second, because the Constitution says, "No State shall ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." That establishes that, while the states can differ on petty matters such as those pertaining to local taxes and spending, they must adhere to a common standard for more important matters, such as civil rights.
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How would you like it if southern states dictated to California & New York how they should be run?
Again, California and New York aren't dictating anything about how southern states should be run - the southern states are obligated to abide by the US Constitution. Beyond that, Full Faith and Credit means that the southern states already place expectations on California and New York that marriages licensed by those southern states will be recognized and respected in California and New York.
Does the South always have to be the last area of the country to achieve social progress and be forced by the federal government to adapt these changes despite the opposition from its conservative politicians. From integration to education to gay rights it always seems like the South lags far behind the rest of the country. Will it always be this way or will the federal government always have to drag it kicking and screaming into the modern era?
And for those who say I don't understand the South I lived in North Carolina from age 6 to age 26.
There are still some that feel, in this thing we call a nation of individual states, that individual freedom outweighs control and micro-management of of liberties, turning them all into privileges.
In other words, you don't have a moral defense for the moral repudiation against the corruption you like, so you just try to make it seem like the words weren't posted.
No, put simply you're wrong and making things up in your constant quest to demonize your despised enemy "right wingers."
You claim in your 3 months you're now an expert to make this idiotic generalization that "right wingers" don't know "people of color" in the south. It's flat out wrong, but not surprising coming from someone who constantly whines about "right wingers" here.
In my opinion those clerks defying the tyrants in Washington are patriots. The federal government has no right to violate the state of Alabama's rights the way it has. This is about our bill of rights, it is about the freedom of states to make their own laws which reflect their own values. This is so much bigger than the gay issue. I support a states right to legalize gay marriage if its people chose it. If you don't like the laws of your state you are free to move. What I can never support is the federal government usurping the 10th amendment in order to force the liberal agenda on "red state America" because that is the only way they will ever get their agenda through there. I am glad that someone has had the guts to do this, most conservative states folded out of fear of the federal power. Time to stand up and tell these federal tyrants we will have no more. Our founding fathers had the guts to challenge tyrants, and the confederacy had the guts to stand up to federal tyrants. What I am trying to say is that our ancestors would not have put up with this without challenging it. We need people in this nation like this state judge and the county officials who are enforcing their state laws, in spite of this unconstitutional act by the federal government. I hope their spirit spreads like a wild fire across the red states, from the south to the mountain west, its time we assert our rights. Kudos to the patriots in our neighboring state to the south
States laws have to pass constitutional muster too. laws banning ssm have been found to be in violation of the 14th amendment in over 25 federal courts.
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