Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 02-28-2015, 11:14 AM
 
32,021 posts, read 36,777,542 times
Reputation: 13300

Advertisements

Why do these companies keep raising their minimum wage when they don't even have to?

Or have CEO's suddenly decided that shareholder value no longer matters?

Aetna raises its minimum wage to $16
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-28-2015, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
25,386 posts, read 35,533,269 times
Reputation: 14692
Quote:
Originally Posted by arjay57 View Post
Why do these companies keep raising their minimum wage when they don't even have to?

Or have CEO's suddenly decided that shareholder value no longer matters?

Aetna raises its minimum wage to $16
Answer: Because that is what it takes to hire and retain people with the skills they want. Supply and demand. However, this is not justification to tell McDonald's they need to pay burger flippers $15/hour. Different skill sets are worth different wages.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-28-2015, 12:46 PM
 
1,160 posts, read 713,605 times
Reputation: 473
Quote:
Originally Posted by ContrarianEcon View Post
Why is it practical to keep wages inline with inflation.
There is several flaws with this....first no one is discussing wages in general...the question is why is it practical to keep minimum wages laws inline with inflation. Second, if you are implying the government has a responsibility to keep all wages in line with inflation then that would explicitly imply you believe in price fixing specifically fixing the price of labor.


Quote:
Originally Posted by ContrarianEcon View Post
For these four reasons it is probably practical to have the bottom's wages lead inflation.
Now you shift the goal post to bottom wages instead of all wages as indicated in your first sentence.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-28-2015, 12:52 PM
 
3,792 posts, read 2,384,773 times
Reputation: 768
Quote:
Originally Posted by billydaman View Post
Now you shift the goal post to bottom wages instead of all wages as indicated in your first sentence.
I've got a learning disability. I put a lot of work into writing. Sometimes I make mistakes.

If you look at my posts you will see a large number of them where I went back and fixed spelling.

I miss wrote. I left out a word. I wanted to have written bottom end wages and didn't get that typed out. My bad. Sorry.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-28-2015, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
86,052 posts, read 84,464,288 times
Reputation: 27720
Quote:
Originally Posted by WestCobb View Post
I think people who are arguing that minimum wage should be $15 an hour are shooting too low. Who can live on that? I think it should be more like $20. What do you think?
I make $20/hour. I'm a certified Math/Generalist 4-8 teacher. I do Math/Reading tutoring in area schools. I have a college degree and state licensure to teach.

A 16 year old with no experience can make the same amount by standing there and saying "Would you like fries with that ?"

A 30 year old dropout who job hops from one FF place to another can also make the same $20/hour.

An immigrant that speaks no English and has a 5th grade education can sweep floors and clean tables at McDonalds for $20/hour, same as I make.

Yeah..push that $20/hour. When amnesty passes every illegal that just became legal will take over the service industry for $20/hour.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-28-2015, 04:53 PM
 
34,278 posts, read 19,365,659 times
Reputation: 17261
Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
I make $20/hour. I'm a certified Math/Generalist 4-8 teacher. I do Math/Reading tutoring in area schools. I have a college degree and state licensure to teach.

A 16 year old with no experience can make the same amount by standing there and saying "Would you like fries with that ?"

A 30 year old dropout who job hops from one FF place to another can also make the same $20/hour.

An immigrant that speaks no English and has a 5th grade education can sweep floors and clean tables at McDonalds for $20/hour, same as I make.

Yeah..push that $20/hour. When amnesty passes every illegal that just became legal will take over the service industry for $20/hour.
Which would you rather do? tutoring or "would you like fries with that?"
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-28-2015, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
46,001 posts, read 35,171,483 times
Reputation: 7875
Quote:
Originally Posted by billydaman View Post
Its comical you think it really matters what any of us thinks about what someone "should be paid".



What? You are unwilling to support anything you say so I do not engage with you when you make absurd and frankly irrelevant comments when considering the context. You fail to understand that my questions always center on the "why" not the "what".
So what you are saying is you have never paid any attention to how minimum wage has been raised in the past? Do you seriously think the government would raise it to $15/hr overnight?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-28-2015, 05:02 PM
 
3,792 posts, read 2,384,773 times
Reputation: 768
Quote:
This example depends on what happens to wages relative to the general price increase. In some periods, when unemployment has been low and workers relatively powerful, wage increases have been greater than the rate of inflation—e.g., from the mid-1940s to the early 1970s. In subsequent years, with the conditions of labor very different, wages in general have barely kept pace with inflation. When working people do not have the power to defend themselves, they will most often be harmed by inflation. This is especially true when there are sudden upward spikes in the prices that form a large share of what people buy—as was the case with food and fuel prices a few years ago.
The Minimum Wage and Inflation | Dollars & Sense

A big part of the prosperity of the post WWII era is that wages went up more than inflation. That lead to general prosperity.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-28-2015, 05:04 PM
 
1,160 posts, read 713,605 times
Reputation: 473
Quote:
Originally Posted by urbanlife78 View Post
So what you are saying is you have never paid any attention to how minimum wage has been raised in the past? Do you seriously think the government would raise it to $15/hr overnight?
Wow. You just do not get it. Whether they do it all at once or over a period of time, its irrelevant.


Spoiler
If minimum wage does what you all says it does it shouldn't matter how its implemented.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-28-2015, 05:08 PM
 
34,278 posts, read 19,365,659 times
Reputation: 17261
Quote:
Originally Posted by billydaman View Post
Wow. You just do not get it. Whether they do it all at once or over a period of time, its irrelevant.


Spoiler
If minimum wage does what you all says it does it shouldn't matter how its implemented.
If I pour out 5,000 gallons of water on you, if I do it all at once, or 2/gallons per minute, it shouldnt matter....right?

Heres a clue-ones good for you and get you clean, the other one might kill you.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top