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Old 06-24-2015, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Hickory, NC
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Nevermind the genocide of the entire race of Natives perpetrated under the flag of the United States of America.

 
Old 06-24-2015, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Here's a question for you. The USA allowed slavery for much longer than the Confederacy even existed and the slaves were transported from Africa on boats flying the USA flag....so should we take down the USA flag as well?
 
Old 06-24-2015, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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Yes, the north participated in and was complicit in slavery for a very long time. And yes, some blacks owned slaves.

However, all that wiggling and squirming doesn't change the reality that the Confederate flag has clearly become a symbol of white supremacy and racial hatred.
Might as well include the American flag as well.
 
Old 06-24-2015, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Let me just say this, I'm from the school of thought that if you take the life of another person that it better be a DAMNED good reason for doing so! Such as defense of yourself, or your family, or in war. This guy Roof had a screw loose somewhere.
Except that I wouldn't say that mental illness drives one to murder another. In this case, hatred (racial, of course) is the motivation. We don't make these excuses for suicide bombers, do we?
 
Old 06-24-2015, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Nobody is arguing that the Confederate flag caused this. Most people with some sense would realize it wasn't the cause. This is about the fact that alot of people who are bigots fly that flag. It did not cause the shooting, and no one is saying that it did. What people are saying is that throughout history, bigots have used the Confederate flag.

And the Black on Black violence that takes place in the inner cities have nothing to do with the shooting in Charleston, so the two can't be compared.
The flag is but the tip of this iceberg.

Statues, paintings, lake names, street names, park names.
Even private businesses that have Confederate symbols are being bullied by social media.

The purge is on.
 
Old 06-24-2015, 01:37 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Except that I wouldn't say that mental illness drives one to murder another. In this case, hatred (racial, of course) is the motivation. We don't make these excuses for suicide bombers, do we?

Regardless of how it's done, there is no excuse for cold blooded murder.
 
Old 06-24-2015, 01:37 PM
 
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I never understood the love affair with the confederate flag.

The South lost. Why on earth would you want a daily reminder of being losers?
 
Old 06-24-2015, 01:40 PM
 
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Nevermind the genocide of the entire race of Natives perpetrated under the flag of the United States of America.

Nah, most of the natives were not killed by anyone. They died due to disease... something like 95% of all post-Columbian Indian deaths are attributed to disease, not war or genocide. And no, please don't bring up small pox blankets myths.

(Cultural genocide is a different story, of course).

Had they more resistance in north America I'd venture our population would look a lot closer to Peru or Mexico of today.
 
Old 06-24-2015, 01:41 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Nobody is arguing that the Confederate flag caused this. Most people with some sense would realize it wasn't the cause. This is about the fact that alot of people who are bigots fly that flag. It did not cause the shooting, and no one is saying that it did. What people are saying is that throughout history, bigots have used the Confederate flag.

And the Black on Black violence that takes place in the inner cities have nothing to do with the shooting in Charleston, so the two can't be compared.
Bigots/Nationalists/Far right radicals all over the world fly their nations flag at protests' so what is so special about the confederate flag?
 
Old 06-24-2015, 01:45 PM
 
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Bigots/Nationalists/Far right radicals all over the world fly their nations flag at protests' so what is so special about the confederate flag?
The confederate flag is not currently any nation's flag. But it is currently being deployed by racist hate groups and mass murderers like Dylann Roof. If you want to fly that flag in your front yard, then go for it. But do we really want our state capitols proudly displaying what has increasingly become identified as a banner of racist hate?

I don't. Do you? Really?
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