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Actually, the Congress would have to authorize the money for the fence and other measures the bill called for.
Just declare it part of "national defense" and move some money from there. Money for the fence was budgeted and passed during the Bush Administration so the money had already been appropriated and construction started.
If Ryan is bothered by Obama "going around congress," wouldn't the fix be for congress to pass whatever reform they wanted.
IMO, this is nothing but a poorly veiled excuse for Ryan appealing to the hard conservatives without facing his own views as listed here: Paul Ryan on Immigration
Ryan is just another pandering political wimp who scapegoats.
Congress is going to do nothing. Well, it's worked so far, hasn't it?
Just declare it part of "national defense" and move some money from there. Money for the fence was budgeted and passed during the Bush Administration so the money had already been appropriated and construction started.
No, "W" asked for money to build a partial fence, and he got it.
Just declare it part of "national defense" and move some money from there. Money for the fence was budgeted and passed during the Bush Administration so the money had already been appropriated and construction started.
That money has already been promised to the defense contractor/ military complex, despite that the Pentagon has NEVER been able to account for spending and has managed to never be audited despite a law requiring it be audited.
Back in 2009, GAO estimated it would cost $400,000- $15 million a mile to finish the fence depending on type of fence, topography, materials, labor costs and land acquisistion. The latter is the real wild card because final costs will not be known until each and every challenge of eminent domain is concluded.
No, "W" asked for money to build a partial fence, and he got it.
670 miles of single layer fence was built between 2006-9 at a cost of $2.4 billion.
38 miles of a 19' double layer fence near El Paso ran $170 million and according to the contractor summary required 1100 people and 600 pieces of equipment.
Costs do not reflect land acquisition.
Last edited by middle-aged mom; 11-03-2015 at 06:51 AM..
Amen. Why don't "constitutional experts" realize this? The president swears to uphold our laws and then doesn't do it.
Obama has deported more undocumented aliens than prior years, besides illegal immigration reached it's peak in 2008 where was this outcry in 2006, 2007?
What laws does he circumvent, have congress provide more funds for border patrol and legal assistance if you don't think he is deporting enough. It's not as if that is a solution but let congress come up with more money.
Executive orders are well within the powers of the president and they have been used in the past, that is not a circumvention of the constitution.
Last edited by Goodnight; 11-03-2015 at 06:56 AM..
If Ryan is bothered by Obama "going around congress," wouldn't the fix be for congress to pass whatever reform they wanted.
IMO, this is nothing but a poorly veiled excuse for Ryan appealing to the hard conservatives without facing his own views as listed here: Paul Ryan on Immigration
Ryan is just another pandering political wimp who scapegoats.
Seriously?
Someone apparently hasn't read the many posts here biotching about do-nothing Ryan, so give me a break with claiming that he's appealing to the hard conservatives by continuing to NOT address what we've already acknowledged that he NEVER addressed before.
You see, that is the difference between Conservatives who talk turkey about the deficiencies in their candidates, and Liberals who follow theirs like sycophants.
If Ryan is bothered by Obama "going around congress," wouldn't the fix be for congress to pass whatever reform they wanted.
IMO, this is nothing but a poorly veiled excuse for Ryan appealing to the hard conservatives without facing his own views as listed here: Paul Ryan on Immigration
Ryan is just another pandering political wimp who scapegoats.
From your own links about Paul Ryan - he said the same thing in 2012 that he said this week.
No "comprehensive" Immigration Law, but break it into pieces is fine.
It's clear to anyone with Reading Ability that the Congress & Citizens can't trust Obama. Not on Immigration and not on National Security.
His latest (possible) illegal action is to circumvent not only Congress and the Laws on the books - but a Court Order in a Federal Court ...... according to a Homeland Security Memo on the "Obama Amnesty".
The internal memo reveals four options of varying expansiveness, with option 1 providing EADs to “all individuals living in the United States”, including illegal aliens, visa-overstayers, and H-1B guest-workers, while option 4 provides EADs only to those on certain unexpired non-immigrant visas. Giving EADs to any of the covered individuals, however, is in direct violation of Congress’s Immigration & Nationality Act and works to dramatically subvert our carefully wrought visa system.
By claiming absolute authority to grant work authorization to any alien, regardless of status, DHS is in effect claiming it can unilaterally de-couple the 1986 IRCA work authorization statutes from the main body of U.S. visa law. While DHS must still observe the statutory requirements for issuing visas, the emerging doctrine concedes, the administration now claims unprecedented discretionary power to permit anyone inside our borders to work.
TeamObama members and DHS all LIED to Judge Hanen, they have ignored his Injunctions and continued to issue work permits outside of the law ..... this is not based on an "Executive Order" - there was no "Executive Order", it was an Executive Memo to Homeland Security.
It the strange world of Democrats - Memos now circumvent all Federal Laws and Federal Court orders are nothing more than Toilet Paper. Paul Ryan is exactly correct - the last thing this Nation needs is ANY "comprehensive Law" on anything at all. These massive Comprehensive Laws leave too much to departments and unelected bureaucrats to write "Rules" used to implement Congressional Laws.
All the evidence of Corruption within the Obama Administration (particularly in the DOJ) means the best we can "hope" for is to hang on until they are all gone.
If Ryan is bothered by Obama "going around congress," wouldn't the fix be for congress to pass whatever reform they wanted.
IMO, this is nothing but a poorly veiled excuse for Ryan appealing to the hard conservatives without facing his own views as listed here: Paul Ryan on Immigration
Ryan is just another pandering political wimp who scapegoats.
He's too busy getting that old 'smoke' smell out of the carpet in his new office.
Priorities.
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