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Old 03-28-2016, 01:51 PM
 
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The Boomers and Milennials are both bad news.
Selfish generations, both spoiled.

Generation X is the smartest, most informed.
This. I am constantly amazed how much my parents generation don't know and how much less milennials know than when my wife and I were their age.
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Old 03-28-2016, 01:57 PM
 
Location: USA
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Yeah, we'll be fine when we turn it all over to millennials who are scared of chalk and need a safe-space.
Dont hurt my feelings or I'll call Obama and Loretta Lynch on you. One thing I can say the current batch of Leftist Boomers can lie like there is no tomorrow.
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Old 03-28-2016, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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The Boomers and Milennials are both bad news.
Selfish generations, both spoiled.

Generation X is the smartest, most informed.
I dunno- it looks to me like we gen-X'ers have amounted to Jack ****.

Most people of our generation have succumbed to a sort of economic Stockholm Syndrome... voting directly for the interests of the same banks, billionaires, and baby-boomers who stole and squandered our birthright as Americans. Seriously, I see nothing original from our generation. And what impact have we had?? The sum total of accomplished gen-X politicians is a rag-tag lot of billionaire-boot-licking teabillies like Cruz, Ryan, and Rubio. Like most of our generation, they're in it only for their personal gain. Will do and say whatever it takes to keep the money rolling in... because that's the nasty kind of world we've been cast into.

The Millennials aren't even entirely done with HIGH SCHOOL yet and they've accomplished more than Gen X ever did. Say what you will about OWS and BLM- I have serious doubts about both myself- but they've shaped the national debate in ways we gen-X'ers couldn't dream of.

We gen-X'ers spent our youth smoking pot and watching MTV. Oh yeah we were such rebels... but we sure did shut up and fall in line- straight into the corporate jobs and suburbs- as soon as it was convenient for us. I'm not an exception to that either. But these Millennials by and large don't have the OPPORTUNITY to do that. That corporate/suburban dream is so distant to millions that it might as well be a fairy tale. Without this incentive that we've enjoyed- they're not nearly as likely to shut up and get in line.
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Old 03-28-2016, 02:19 PM
 
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What an awesome display of self loathing.

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I dunno- it looks to me like we gen-X'ers have amounted to Jack ****.

Most people of our generation have succumbed to a sort of economic Stockholm Syndrome... voting directly for the interests of the same banks, billionaires, and baby-boomers who stole and squandered our birthright as Americans. Seriously, I see nothing original from our generation. And what impact have we had?? The sum total of accomplished gen-X politicians is a rag-tag lot of billionaire-boot-licking teabillies like Cruz, Ryan, and Rubio. Like most of our generation, they're in it only for their personal gain. Will do and say whatever it takes to keep the money rolling in... because that's the nasty kind of world we've been cast into.

The Millennials aren't even entirely done with HIGH SCHOOL yet and they've accomplished more than Gen X ever did. Say what you will about OWS and BLM- I have serious doubts about both myself- but they've shaped the national debate in ways we gen-X'ers couldn't dream of.

We gen-X'ers spent our youth smoking pot and watching MTV. Oh yeah we were such rebels... but we sure did shut up and fall in line- straight into the corporate jobs and suburbs- as soon as it was convenient for us. I'm not an exception to that either. But these Millennials by and large don't have the OPPORTUNITY to do that. That corporate/suburban dream is so distant to millions that it might as well be a fairy tale. Without this incentive that we've enjoyed- they're not nearly as likely to shut up and get in line.
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Old 03-28-2016, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Paradise
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And what are the Boomers sacrificing? They are the whiners preventing us from making necessary chances to Social Security such as raising the retirement age so that SS is still there for millennials like me. Look, few Americans still work manual labor jobs ... it is not sustainable to have perfectly healthy 62 year old's retire and bleed SS dry because they collect benefits for 20+ years when the program was designed with the intention that the average person would collect benefits for 5 years. It's not 1930 something anymore, the average life expectancy is no longer 65.

I suggest a reasonable compromise: tie the retirement age to 10 years from the average life expectancy which is currently jusssst shy of 79, so make the retirement age 69. I think that's very fair. If the life expectancy rate increases, the retirement ages increases. If it goes down, than the retirement age goes down.


That doesn't sound unreasonable. I propose we back-date that for anyone born after 1980. Those born before that have likely contributed enough of their own fair share or have planned for their retirement to begin at 65 (as was promised). Those born after that date have plenty of time to change their retirement options.
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Old 03-28-2016, 02:30 PM
 
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History gives one perspective. Especially, if you bother to read and understand it, before running your mouth. When will you sacrifice and agree to have your SS retirement age raised? That is how it worked in 1983; Boomers sacrificed. Actually, it did not seem like a sacrifice as much as the smart and right thing to do.

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Social Security's full-benefit retirement age is increasing gradually because of legislation passed by Congress in 1983. Traditionally, the full benefit age was 65, and early retirement benefits were first available at age 62, with a permanent reduction to 80 percent of the full benefit amount. Currently, the full benefit age is 66 for people born in 1943-1954, and it will gradually rise to 67 for those born in 1960 or later. Early retirement benefits will continue to be available at age 62, but they will be reduced more. When the full-benefit age reaches 67, benefits taken at age 62 will be reduced to 70 percent of the full benefit and benefits first taken at age 65 will be reduced to 86.7 percent of the full benefit.
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And what are the Boomers sacrificing? They are the whiners preventing us from making necessary chances to Social Security such as raising the retirement age so that SS is still there for millennials like me. Look, few Americans still work manual labor jobs ... it is not sustainable to have perfectly healthy 62 year old's retire and bleed SS dry because they collect benefits for 20+ years when the program was designed with the intention that the average person would collect benefits for 5 years. It's not 1930 something anymore, the average life expectancy is no longer 65.

I suggest a reasonable compromise: tie the retirement age to 10 years from the average life expectancy which is currently jusssst shy of 79, so make the retirement age 69. I think that's very fair. If the life expectancy rate increases, the retirement ages increases. If it goes down, than the retirement age goes down.
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Old 03-28-2016, 02:34 PM
 
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The Most Entitled Generation Isn't Millennials. It's Baby Boomers | RealClearPolitics

I think that once younger generations have the ability to turn the country around, we'll see some improvements.

We are saved.
Funny that you say that: many of my Boomer friends were telling me when I was a teenager back around 1982 how THEY couldn't advance because the older people then were in the "way". Oh well.
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Old 03-28-2016, 02:46 PM
 
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I think that article is wrong, I am in theory a baby boomer as well as most of our friends and all of us have worked hard for what we have, paid our own way through college while working full time, moved out of our parents home and paid our own way, bought our own vehicles and paid for everything that goes with that.
You will never convince me that the young ones do not have entitlement mentality, I see it often enough in the real world and it is sickening.
Nobody is claiming that baby boomers "didn't work their way through college" , etc.

What's being claimed is that baby boomers inherited an economy where it was actually possible to work your way through college -- then ruined it -- and now complain that the young people won't work their way through college.
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Old 03-28-2016, 03:22 PM
 
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That doesn't sound unreasonable. I propose we back-date that for anyone born after 1980. Those born before that have likely contributed enough of their own fair share or have planned for their retirement to begin at 65 (as was promised). Those born after that date have plenty of time to change their retirement options.
I'm not clear why anyone wants to cut SS for any age group. It's like the one part of the federal safety net that actually works.

I can only assume you buy the GOP's B.S. about "Social Security being in danger."
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Old 03-28-2016, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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I think that article is wrong, I am in theory a baby boomer as well as most of our friends and all of us have worked hard for what we have, paid our own way through college while working full time, moved out of our parents home and paid our own way, bought our own vehicles and paid for everything that goes with that.
You will never convince me that the young ones do not have entitlement mentality, I see it often enough in the real world and it is sickening.
Same here.

This is the new meme of the millenials, they always have to blame someone or something...it's a pretty idiotic arguement. I wasn't alive when FDR gave us Social Security and I was an infant when LBJ gave us Medicare...it all went downhill from there.
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