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Old 05-11-2016, 11:42 AM
 
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Again, government letting us know, that they know what's best for us.
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Old 05-11-2016, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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If they ever come up with a safe and effective vaccine for malaria, half the planet will be lined up for that one.
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Old 05-11-2016, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I'm not up on current rules, but are schoolchildren still required to get smallpox and polio vaccines?
No smallpox vaccinations are given anywhere in the world any more. Most states require polio and several other vaccines.
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Old 05-11-2016, 12:24 PM
 
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Next thing is kids will be required to have a partial lobotomy so they are liberal for life instead of waking up by about the age of 30 and realizing the truth.
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Old 05-11-2016, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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Yes, fear of vaccines!

FYI, you will never need another smallpox vaccination, and pretty soon polio will be wiped off the earth too, thanks to people who do vaccinate.


Says the Dr who makes money off of you & the medical community who back them up & in turn makes money.
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Old 05-11-2016, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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No smallpox vaccinations are given anywhere in the world any more. Most states require polio and several other vaccines.

I helped make some of those smallpox vaccinations way back in 1965/66. And, yes, it has been many years since we last immunized anybody against smallpox. It is one of the most successful immunization programs that was ever created - we virtually illuminated smallpox in the whole world.


The government still has some of our old serum stored someplace; I don't know where. They took the last of it cryogenically stored back in the mid 1990's. I also have no idea how many does were taken.
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Old 05-11-2016, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Says the Dr who makes money off of you & the medical community who back them up & in turn makes money.

Many dollars go simply to regulation. The system has built in redundancies to eliminate error.


It is little things like you cannot erase, no pencil, no write overs, no scratching out, no gel-pens - everything is written in indelible blue or black ink. If you make a mistake you have to draw one single line through your mistake and make a notation. Then you have to correct your mistake and explain why you made the mistake and sign and date your entry error. All official paperwork is saved for twenty years and everybody can and will inspect it for mistakes. Many processes require a check signer or 'eye witness' signer and then a manager signature to verify all is correct.


We cannot vary from the process; any deviation can cost us thousands of dollars to correct or can cost millions of dollars in product.


We cannot just use steel equipment. Everything has to be surgical stainless steel and that is expensive.


All of this cost time, manpower and lots of money. It is the system that we use to ensure quality.
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Old 05-11-2016, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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Many dollars go simply to regulation. The system has built in redundancies to eliminate error.


It is little things like you cannot erase, no pencil, no write overs, no scratching out, no gel-pens - everything is written in indelible blue or black ink. If you make a mistake you have to draw one single line through your mistake and make a notation. Then you have to correct your mistake and explain why you made the mistake and sign and date your entry error. All official paperwork is saved for twenty years and everybody can and will inspect it for mistakes. Many processes require a check signer or 'eye witness' signer and then a manager signature to verify all is correct.


We cannot vary from the process; any deviation can cost us thousands of dollars to correct or can cost millions of dollars in product.


We cannot just use steel equipment. Everything has to be surgical stainless steel and that is expensive.


All of this cost time, manpower and lots of money. It is the system that we use to ensure quality.


Let's not forget that much of that goes to line the pockets of law makers while we're at it. If you think the system is built on 100% honest I'm sorry. Doctor's are making some serious money.

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Old 05-11-2016, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Says the Dr who makes money off of you & the medical community who back them up & in turn makes money.
LOL, you think I'm a doctor!

No one is getting smallpox, anywhere in the world. Polio is on its way out, thanks to vaccination. No one has gotten wild polio in the US since 1979.

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I helped make some of those smallpox vaccinations way back in 1965/66. And, yes, it has been many years since we last immunized anybody against smallpox. It is one of the most successful immunization programs that was ever created - we virtually illuminated smallpox in the whole world.


The government still has some of our old serum stored someplace; I don't know where. They took the last of it cryogenically stored back in the mid 1990's. I also have no idea how many does were taken.
Cool! I gave some of the last spv vaccinations back in the mid-70s. It was still required then for travel to some places.

I think the vaccine is in Atlanta.
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Old 05-11-2016, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I think the vaccine is in Atlanta.

It could be. When the government found it on site; they brought in the military with fully automatic weapons to quickly move it to where ever. Perhaps they knew it was there all along; but got nervous because of a possible scare?


The particular location of the facility has changed names and ownership several times in the last fifty years. It was National Drug Company when the smallpox vaccine was made.


Yes; the Polio vaccine is also another success story. I love vaccines that eliminate the disease. But, unfortunately, we do not have many. Because it is so expensive to develop, test, and license new vaccines; I am not sure if we will continue to have other success stories like the smallpox and polio vaccines?
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